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Old 07-11-2005, 04:26 PM
SoBeDude SoBeDude is offline
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Default Re: AJs preflop. cap or call?

OK, the table and player reads are important.

No.

poster said it was something like 45% VP$IP right? this is showdown poker and reads are irrelevant. you have to turn over the best hand at the showdown to scoop a pot here.

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Old 07-11-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: AJs preflop. cap or call?

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OK, the table and player reads are important.

No.

poster said it was something like 45% VP$IP right? this is showdown poker and reads are irrelevant. you have to turn over the best hand at the showdown to scoop a pot here.

-Scott

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I'm trying to agree with you and you still argue.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: AJs preflop. cap or call?

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poster said it was something like 45% VP$IP right?

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He also said...
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a bunch of loose aggressives playing.


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Combine those, and it's perfect for capping preflop with AJs.

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this is showdown poker and reads are irrelevant.

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Not necesarily. There are usually spots where hands become more defined in these games. Many times it's on the bigger streets.

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Old 07-11-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: AJs preflop. cap or call?

Hi Bernie,

Combine those, and it's perfect for capping preflop with AJs.

Please show me some math behind that. it seems those facts draw me to the opposite conclusion. You do not have the best hand here. you're going to have to get lucky and hit a flop hard to scoop a pot. how does this justify a cap? he said they were LAGs, not maniacs.

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Old 07-11-2005, 07:18 PM
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You do not have the best hand here.

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Why couldn't you have the best hand? Wouldn't you cap this with AQs or AKs?

You're giving LAGs too much credit for having hands that, combined, you won't have an equity edge against. They are not tactically raising preflop. The thing to watch for is the guy who has somewhat tighter raising/3betting standards if he gets active.

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you're going to have to get lucky and hit a flop hard to scoop a pot. how does this justify a cap?

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You might not have to hit the flop that hard. Top pair wins more than enough.

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