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Old 05-14-2005, 05:09 PM
PrayingMantis PrayingMantis is offline
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Default Almost FT, A7o

$33 rebuy, 11 players left on 2 tables, 9 get to final table. All get $365. 9th is $517. 1st wins $8.5K, 2nd is $5.5K, 3rd is $3.5K etc.

You are pretty low with 115K, but there are 1 shorter stack at your table (around 80K) and 2 more pretty much like yours. At the other table situation is similar.

Blinds are 12K/6K, ante 600, 5 players at the table.

Folded to SB, big stack w/400K, very aggressive and strong player. He immidiately pushes. You have A7o. How fast do you call/fold?
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Old 05-14-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

Man, it is close. You are not likely to be dominating him (he more often than not will have two live cards). You are probably winning, but it is a big gamble for a pot that isn't THAT big.
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

I think this call solely depends on villain and how aggressive he has been in stealing blinds and how tight you have been playing.

I have made this call with K high and folded hands as good as A7. I believe this is a strictly a feel play based on your read of villain.
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:20 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

I think I find a fold here pretty fast.

While its likely you are ahead, you arent going to be very far ahead very often. Plus stacks like to play tight on the bubble so I'd much prefer to steal the blinds with any 2 crap cards then to call this bet.

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Old 05-14-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

[ QUOTE ]
I think I find a fold here pretty fast.

While its likely you are ahead, you arent going to be very far ahead very often. Plus stacks like to play tight on the bubble so I'd much prefer to steal the blinds with any 2 crap cards then to call this bet.

-Jason

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah what he said
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:07 AM
PrayingMantis PrayingMantis is offline
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

Well for me it looked like a rather easy call, and I called pretty fast actually. Maybe it's because I've been playing with the guy for some time. I put him on a very wide range of hands, against which A7o is a clear favorite. Not by much, maybe, but enough for it to be worth around 20K at least. As I'm not really trying to survive this FT "bubble", but simply to accumulate chips, this looked like a good enough spot, definitely not worse than any other option around. I'm not more than ~10xBB, so it's not like there are many posssibilies here.

Honestly I'm a bit surprised to see some of you think it is so close or a fold. Maybe against some players it's a good fold. In this spot I really couldn't think that folding A7o is right. I'm still ready to be convinced, though.

He showed QTo (very good hand actually, considering the range I put him on), and didn't improve. I doubled up and had a nice stack to go on.
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Old 05-15-2005, 01:26 AM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

If he shows you KQ do you call?

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Old 05-15-2005, 03:04 AM
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If he shows you KQ do you call?

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I do.
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Old 05-15-2005, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

I'm deffinitely not here with these stack sizes. chip ev does not equal cash ev here, not even close.
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Old 05-15-2005, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: Almost FT, A7o

muck. You're probably a slight favorite over his hand range i.e. 55-60% but that's not enough for me right now
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