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Old 12-03-2005, 08:31 PM
cokehead cokehead is offline
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Default KK - Party 3/6

Villian is 39/4/.6, whats your play here?

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (11.00 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

I would go to a table where the button wasn't allowed to jump in and cap preflop after he appearantly folded to your raise, and SB and BB have already acted twice.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:40 PM
Spartan1983 Spartan1983 is offline
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, ?

You raised a cap? I raise the turn, then probably go into call down mode if they continue to show aggression.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:41 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

the blinds both checked their options, hero in the cutoff raises his kings, then small blind completes, then big blind decides, "screw just checking, i'm raising" and raises, then hero reraises his kings, then button says, "hold on guys you skipped me" and caps. hero says, "there is no cap" and 5-bets. all call.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:47 PM
cokehead cokehead is offline
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

Sorry, fixed the preflop action, converter was being screwy. is the turn really a 3-bet?
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:51 PM
admiralfluff admiralfluff is offline
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

no way is this turn a 3-bet, and unfortunately the pot is too big to consider folding anywhere. BB will usually have a set, sometimes T9s and you have a reasonable chance, and some other crap often enough that you should pay off on the river.
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Old 12-03-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

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no way is this turn a 3-bet, and unfortunately the pot is too big to consider folding anywhere. BB will usually have a set, sometimes T9s and you have a reasonable chance, and some other crap often enough that you should pay off on the river.

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Yea, you really should not be 3-betting at all. I think a more interesting question is what if the river is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

just call down.
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

Scotty,

Call and get the overcall.

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Old 12-04-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: KK - Party 3/6

I think it really depends on your read. These loose passive types can be observed to never cheskraise the turn without two pair or better. If he is one of those, I think you can get away from it on the river. If the board pairs you may counterfeit him and then have a call. Three betting the turn is pretty bad against this player because if he caps you miss out on a chance to spike a K on the river and you are ahead here very rarely. If your read is not super solid, tow the standard line and call down and watch the pot shipped to him.
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