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Old 12-23-2005, 03:51 AM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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Poker is just a way for me to put capital together, so it wouldn't bother me if the 'bubble' did burst in a few years time.

"When the bubble bursts"

That is just your opinion. Saying 'bubble' makes it sound like online poker is a fad, and it's not. It's popularity may not increase as much as it has done recently, but there's no reason to expect anything extreme.

"You will have to play much better, much longer, for less money"

Again, you're assuming things will get MUCH tougher. Much better, much longer and for less money?? Are you serious? You're acting as if our hourly rates will be cut 75% or something.

"Right now it's cake but in a few more years that won't be the case. "

That's what they were saying a few years ago.

You're being a bit dramatic there.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:17 AM
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while I am still in college and plan to finish while doing as little as possible, I find it depressing that everyone says those were the best years of my life...What am I going to do for the next 60-70 years? I'm sorry but I really just hate hearing that phrase. You can still have as good of time when you are 40, I am sure of it.

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Sorry I didn't mean to depress you. Take note I'm 23 years old. I've only been out of college one year. All I have to compare my college years to is basically the elementary, middle, and high school years of my life, and compared to those, college blew them away. I'm definitely not saying the rest of your life compared to your college years is going to suck, as I have no authority to say that! All I'm trying to say is that it's a once in a life time experience. I'm not saying it's your only chance to live happily. Even though I'll treasure those memories forever, I really really hope down the road I don't still consider those the best years of my life.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:18 AM
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It's a good idea to have a backup plan, but that doesn't have to be a college degree. Anyone who dropped out of college to go pro probably isn't corporate material anyway, and these days that's what a degree usually prepares you for.

Instead, always keep your eyes open for a new opportunity. Maybe you'll find something that earns more than poker, or maybe, God forbid, something you enjoy doing everyday. Learn about realestate, open a strip club, etc. If you made the jump to go pro, you've already had to deal with all they naysayers, and that's something most people never find the courage to do. You're already ahead of most "normal" people.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:47 AM
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Going pro is a great fit for some people, a good fit for other people and a terrible fit for most people. It looks appealing to a whole lot of people though.

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So true!! So many people think it's fascinating that I'm a professional gambler. They have no idea.

I came into gambling strictly by accident. Eking out a small edge from the casinos. Slowly built a bankroll while working a small business as an independent contractor.

Started in 1996, by 1998 my gambling income matched my work income, after that gambling exceeded work income. Guess it was early 2000 that I realized I could really make some money. Kept reinvesting my earnings into my bankroll so that I could up my stakes and up my earnings. Began to think about the possibility of going full time. Two years later, house bought with cash, a substantial bankroll (necessary with an approximate 1% edge at high stakes in a volatile game), money to buy a new car with cash, I quit my business.

Though I love my freedom, it took me about a year to get over it. I missed my colleagues and clients terribly. Your world gets very narrow as a gambler, you have to really make an effort to connect with the world.

You can go where you want when you want. Most people cannot. It's difficult to find people with the same flexibility in their schedules, except other gamblers.

You must be able to adapt to change. In my case, once a casino in which I "worked" realized they were losing money, they changed things. Whoops, no income. Back on the road, find another opportunity. I had a casino basically steal $38,000 from me.

My freedom and autonomy mean the most to me. But basically this is a non productive endeavor, it can leave one feeling empty. I believe it's important to have other interests and friends for some balance in life.

So if you really wanna be a pro, plan for it, make sure you have enough money and no debt. You don't want the inevitable downswings to cause you too much stress.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:03 AM
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I really can't see myself doing much other than playing poker professoinally the next 7-10 years CUZ I'M MAKING BILL GATES MONEY RIGHT NOW . At that point I should have enough passive income to where I can do whatever intrests me at that time CUZ I'M SMART WITH MY MONEY . I love this game and imo its not that hard if you are smart about things AND ARE COACHED AND MENTORED BY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE BUSINESS!! .

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FYP

not everyone is so lucky...

that is the whole point, stories like yours make it seem easy to others, when in reality it has merely come easily to you.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:13 AM
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you need a profound trust and faith in yourself and a complete disregard for the opinions and input of others

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How ironic is this coming from a guy who says that I wasn't cut out for this job??????!!!!

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from others who don't understand the game or what it takes to be an entrepreneur...if you don't perceive me as having the credibility to make that assessment then take it with a grain of salt. the context in which i wrote that line is that my family is very conservative, christian, puritan work ethic, working for the man and paying taxes is the only good way to leads ones life. running a business at a young age and gambling for a living is seen as poor form in these circles, especially after having spent a great deal of time and money getting pedigreed to work for somebody else. but yes, if i was wrong, and you are meant for this life, then that applies to you as well.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:19 AM
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I have learned so many +EV life situations from this game (including discipline, self control, and money management just to name a few.)

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ha.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:28 AM
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I have learned so many +EV life situations from this game (including discipline, self control, and money management just to name a few.)

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ha.

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Yo, I am slowly improving. I haven't done a line off of a strippers ass in over 3 months. Seriously though, You will not see me at STTFHUC 2 unless I have at least 3k to blow, 50 buyins at the 55s to come back to, and all of my debt payed off.

ps. I now hate you more than 66s Unarmed.
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:10 AM
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Yo, I am slowly improving. I haven't done a line off of a strippers ass in over 3 months.

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Classic... I just blew my morning coffee out both nostrils and all over my keyboard. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:42 AM
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I have learned so many +EV life situations from this game (including discipline, self control, and money management just to name a few.)

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ha.

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This is what I was thinking. I was only hoping someone else would say it first.
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