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Old 11-08-2005, 01:40 AM
bicyclekick bicyclekick is offline
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Default 150/300 bellagio hand

6 handed or so bellagio 150/300. Been playing with seat 1 for a couple hours...mostly 5 handed. He opens a decent amount of hands and is simple to play postflop because he plays very honest ABC post-flop poker and doesn't make weak un-trusting call downs. He's a young guy trying to play well and would beat weak opponents for sure so he's decent...but overly observant opponent wouldn't have too many problems with him.

I'm in seat 3 and have a good image. I haven't been playing wildly and have been playing pretty tight...and haven't gotten out of line at all.

Seat 5 is a high stakes NL holdem/pl omaha pro who I'm pretty sure is a very successful player. We played 80/160 the day before for like 15 minutes and the only hand that came up was I raised A3o on the button, he 3 bet out of the sb, I 4 bet, he 5 bet, i called, flopped a 3 and called the flop and turn and river went check check and I beat his AJo. This is his first orbit at the 150 game.

Seat 1 raises utg, I 3 bet A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 spots later

Seat 5 (my imediate right...button) cold calls 3 bets, all fold, seat 1 calls.

Flop A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
seat 1 checks, I bet, seat 5 calls, seat 1 folds.

Turn 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I check, seat 3 bets, I call.

Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I check, seat 3 bets, I call.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

well, cant really put him on anything but AQ, but folding that river would be tough... pot is pretty effing big, so seems fine.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

I think I can fold the river a fair amount of the time here. Depends alot on just the general flow of the game I guess.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:38 AM
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Yuk, folding here is no good IMO. He has done nothing but bet when checked to. How can a fold be right here ever? The description of this player was not straight forward.....
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

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Yuk, folding here is no good IMO. He has done nothing but bet when checked to. How can a fold be right here ever? The description of this player was not straight forward.....

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I would expect his range of hands to be AK, AQ, KK, AA and QQ. Look at preflop, what do you think he's calling 3 cold with from a UTG raise and a tight reraiser, and then calling the flop?
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

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Yuk, folding here is no good IMO. He has done nothing but bet when checked to. How can a fold be right here ever? The description of this player was not straight forward.....

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I would expect his range of hands to be AK, AQ, KK, AA and QQ. Look at preflop, what do you think he's calling 3 cold with from a UTG raise and a tight reraiser, and then calling the flop?

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This is a 6 handed high stakes game, his range is certainly wider than that. I would imagine that villian would not describe BK as a tight reraiser.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

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Yuk, folding here is no good IMO. He has done nothing but bet when checked to. How can a fold be right here ever? The description of this player was not straight forward.....

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I would expect his range of hands to be AK, AQ, KK, AA and QQ. Look at preflop, what do you think he's calling 3 cold with from a UTG raise and a tight reraiser, and then calling the flop?

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This is a 6 handed high stakes game, his range is certainly wider than that. I would imagine that villian would not describe BK as a tight reraiser.

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Most of the times when I play in live short handed, or to be honest full table games, all the normal players think i am a maniac.

cause I "raise every hand"

I don't actually even raise all that often, but I think some of the young internet players are just viewed as maniacs.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

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Yuk, folding here is no good IMO. He has done nothing but bet when checked to. How can a fold be right here ever? The description of this player was not straight forward.....

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I would expect his range of hands to be AK, AQ, KK, AA and QQ. Look at preflop, what do you think he's calling 3 cold with from a UTG raise and a tight reraiser, and then calling the flop?

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I think he caps all of those, except maybe AQ.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

I am assuming seat 3, is actually seat 5 the high stakes NL guy.

I like check raising the turn. I think it is good for metagame consderations. Also, I think it could induce a crazy 3 bet from smaller pocket pairs. It could also cause weak call downs etc.

If he does have a better ace, then you have a strong draw at him, and I don't think he is going to raise your river bet without a monster if you c/r the turn.

I think if he is bluffing and you c/r him, hes gonna go nuts from time to time and 3/bet and bet the river.

Either way, it is likely to fluster him, and your hand nearly merits a raise for value. I am not sure how wide his call 3 cold range is here, but I am assuming it could involve some wierd hands, JTs, pocket pairs...


blake
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: 150/300 bellagio hand

c/r the turn.
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