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Old 12-27-2005, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: AA, 4th suits hits the river

Ok wow, my fault... I was thinking this hand was on the turn when hero was facing his decision. How could I get it so wrong... Anyway, I fold this river.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: AA, 4th suits hits the river

meh, id probably fold. thismeans better than a pair---flush almost every time unless the player is goot then it cold be a clarkmeister. but moran doesnt know about such things.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:16 PM
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Raising here would be a total disaster.

For folding here to be correct he has to have the spade here 87% of the time. Given an AF of 0.85 I am leaning towards folding but I would appreciate if the statement ".84 AF isn't that passive for a 39 VPIP player" could be clarified.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: AA, 4th suits hits the river

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For folding here to be correct he has to have the spade here 87% of the time. Given an AF of 0.85 I am leaning towards folding but I would appreciate if the statement ".84 AF isn't that passive for a 39 VPIP player" could be clarified.

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AF is (Raise% + Bet%)/ Call %. AF trends downward as VPIP increases because (for instance) someone who plays 30% of their hands is more likely to flop a weak hand (be it top pair with a bad kicker or second or third pair) than someone who only plays 15% of their hands. So in general they'll be calling more even if they play well post-flop. Because they play more low cards, they play more suited cards, they play more gapped cards. So if two players have the same AF but significantly different VPIPs, that's a sign the looser player tends to play similar situations more aggressively than the tighter guy. Understand?
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: AA, 4th suits hits the river

I call without even thinking about it. Bad players like to bluff. They watch it on the wpt. Players that like to bluff like to bluff scary cards.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:54 AM
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well said!
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