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JJ, I check my overpair
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MP2, CO, and BB are very loose and passive Button is a complete and utter lag, he seems to be raising any 2 paint cards, any A, any PP, etc. Postflop he's just as aggressive and only slows down when faced with aggression Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks. Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (9 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11 BB |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
I can dig the flop play. I'd bet as a default, but I think your line is plenty reasonable.
Let's talk about a river check raise. |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
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I can dig the flop play. I'd bet as a default, but I think your line is plenty reasonable. Let's talk about a river check raise. [/ QUOTE ] This I like. He's betting a 10 on the flop. |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
Why would you do that?
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
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Why would you do that? [/ QUOTE ] obviously betting is my default line, but go read my description of the button again |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
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obviously betting is my default line, but go read my description of the button again [/ QUOTE ] Exactly -- if he's very aggressive postflop, I would think there's a good chance he'd raise a flop bet from you, trapping the field for an extra bet. Wouldn't that be a good thing? Or were you going for a checkraise to try to knock people out? I think we just have differnt ideas as to how to use the button player, and I don't understand yet what result you were trying for. |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
whats up with the flop check? hoping the aggressive button would bet so you could check raise? well imo a player that aggressive would have bet top pair so i dont think you have to worry about the T pairing on the turn. i would probably lead the river and call a raise.
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
Given your description of button, I don't think going for the check/raise is a bad idea. I'd usually bet but this line has merit. On the other hand, I don't think there's any chance an utter lag checks a T. I think Evan's right that you're good here on the river enough to check/raise. 3-betting the turn isn't a bad option either.
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
On the flop I would still bet I think and hope the donk raised so that I could 3-bet and face everyone with 2 cold that way. Not quite as slick a pot protection move but it's less risky and still works. Don't hate your play though.
The way you played it I think you either need to 3-bet the turn or checkraise the river. |
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Re: JJ, I check my overpair
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On the flop I would still bet I think and hope the donk raised so that I could 3-bet and face everyone with 2 cold that way. Not quite as slick a pot protection move but it's less risky and still works. Don't hate your play though. [/ QUOTE ] honestly, i couldn't tell you which line i think is better. i figured button wouldn't raise the field unless he had at least a decent pair or any kind of draw. however, i figured if it got checked to him he'd try and steal the pot. betting out does guarantee money gets in the pot, though. i'll post my thoughts on the turn/river when i post the results. |
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