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Old 12-11-2005, 11:08 AM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

one villain has a vpip over 70 through several hundred hands. Another is over 50. Everyone's crazy agg, and upon further review this tilted the hell out of me.

Note to self:
1)become more passive vs aggresive players, just let them bluff
2)value bet more vs high vpipers, and respect thier turn raises regardless of the board
3)quit poker while you're ahead, because you obviously suck.

put that in your replayer and smoke it.

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Old 12-11-2005, 11:11 AM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

That seems like a regular table to me at 5/10 or 10/20. What stakes do you play?
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

2/4
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:58 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

guru, guru, take some time off and read some books. You'll crush them in time. Chill!
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

hell, i was crushing them all last week! [sniff], I feel ya pokerbob! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

Im at a table now, i've got a SUPER TRICKY 60/34/2 guy(72 hands) with notes of:
Tricky/Misplaced aggression, Be carefull when folding to him.
RAISED JUNK 58s(3bet), 58o(BTN),
Has bet flop and TURN with OESD's HU, Has raised gutshots on paired board on turn"


then a 55/7/.8 and a 65/7/.6 both to my left(they joined after i sat to the right of this nutter).

Trying to isolate but my KK ran into his AA and cost loads. Then i missed a value turn bet with AQ on QxxA board after he raised my turn bet(He 3bet preflop).

Blah, this is a tough table but hopefully will pay off [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Small blind raises, Big blind calls, Hero raises, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Small blind calls, Big blind calls

Flop: (16.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Small blind bets, Big blind calls, Hero raises, Small blind raises, Big blind folds, Hero calls

Turn: (12.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Small blind bets, Hero calls

River: (14.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Small blind bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $27.75

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">Outcome: Hero wins $27.75
</font>






Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Small blind with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, Big blind checks

Flop: (3.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Button calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG calls

River: (9.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks

Final Pot: $18.25

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">Small blind has Kc 9h (One pair, nines)
Button has 5c 6d (Two Pairs, sixes and fives)
Outcome: Button wins $18.25
</font>










Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero raises, Button all-in ($1.16), Small blind folds, Big blind folds, UTG calls

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG raises, Hero calls

Turn: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero folds

River: (10.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(0 players)</font>


Final Pot: $17.91

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">Button has As 8s (One pair, eights)
UTG has 9d 8d (Flush, king high)
Outcome: UTG wins $13.18 from side pot
Outcome: UTG wins $4.73 from main pot
</font>


I'm probably making 100+ errors this session but tables to good to leave i thinmk its +EV even with errors. Interesting session review coming up tonight though!
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:31 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

if you take a look at my table, you'll see the 72/5 fish taking pot shots at me with junk after I find a few folds. I hate it when fish take shots at me.

As a consolation, he droped about 75 bb at that table alone - and kept me afloat when I started calling him down with middle pair. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, LP calls, CO raises, Hero raises, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, LP calls, CO calls

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LP bets, CO raises, Hero raises, LP calls, CO calls

Turn: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LP bets, CO calls, Hero calls

River: (13.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LP checks, CO checks, Hero bets, LP raises, CO calls, Hero calls

Final Pot: $36.75

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">Button has Ad Ah (One pair, aces)
LP has 8c Qc (One pair, queens)
CO has Ac Kh (ace high)
Outcome: Hero wins $36.75
</font>


The tricky psycho is up to 90BB from around 20BB


Extra hand...

Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, LP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button raises, Small blind calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, LP calls, Button calls, Small blind calls

Flop: (15.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Small blind checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, LP calls, Button calls, Small blind calls

Turn: (10.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Small blind checks, Hero bets, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, LP calls, Button raises, Small blind calls, Hero calls, LP calls

River: (18.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Small blind checks, Hero checks, LP checks, Button checks

Final Pot: $0

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">i won [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Raise showed A6o..</font>
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: I play bad at a [vpip]60/[pfr]30 table

Lmfao check this out, i LOL'ED.

Calling station + Maniac Vs me.

maniac = Button, BB = Calling station.

Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $1/$2 Stakes (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Small blind with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
BB raises, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button raises, Hero calls, inc, BB calls

Flop: (9.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets, BB calls, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls

Turn: (7.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls

River: (10.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets, BB calls, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls

Final Pot: $32.5

Results in white below:
<font color="#FFFFFF">Button has 5s 6c (Straight, two to six)
Outcome: Button wins $32.50
</font>
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