what exactly is this "deck roll" i'm hearing so much about?

[daryn]

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[Percula]

The dealer will turn the deck upside down or in a position that the players can not always see the top of the deck.

Its not as big a deal in a casino than it is in a home game... If the dealer in a home game is rolling the deck on a consistant basis, leave. But it is something that should not done in either case.

[Randy_Refeld]

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The dealer will turn the deck upside down or in a position that the players can not always see the top of the deck.

Its not as big a deal in a casino than it is in a home game... If the dealer in a home game is rolling the deck on a consistant basis, leave. But it is something that should not done in either case.

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This is probably a bigger deal in a casino. They know they aren't suppsoed to do it as it threatens the integrity of the game and they think so little of the people paying them that they will do it anyway. It shows laziness on the part of the dealer for doing it and on the part of the room management for not requiring that the dealers hold the deck correctly.

[Percula]

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This is probably a bigger deal in a casino. They know they aren't suppsoed to do it as it threatens the integrity of the game and they think so little of the people paying them that they will do it anyway. It shows laziness on the part of the dealer for doing it and on the part of the room management for not requiring that the dealers hold the deck correctly.

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What I was getting at is that in a casino, it is much less likely they are rolling the deck to cheat you, where in a home game it is more likely. Lots of people cashing in on the poker boom all over the place...

[Randy_Refeld]

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This is probably a bigger deal in a casino. They know they aren't suppsoed to do it as it threatens the integrity of the game and they think so little of the people paying them that they will do it anyway. It shows laziness on the part of the dealer for doing it and on the part of the room management for not requiring that the dealers hold the deck correctly.

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What I was getting at is that in a casino, it is much less likely they are rolling the deck to cheat you, where in a home game it is more likely. Lots of people cashing in on the poker boom all over the place...

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I would be more inclined to trust someone in a home game than a stranger in a casino.

i have to disagree randy. if i were a poker cheat, i'd much rather be doing it in a home game. lets face it, they're cheating, i don't think they mind stealing from people they know, vs stealing from perfect strangers. and they don't have video cameras on them at a home game.

[Photoc]

I could not tell you how many times I've seen a dealer drop a card or more off the top of the deck while rolling it. It's laziness and not allowed. DONT FCKING DO IT DEALERS! Refer to my prior post regarding things such as this that I mentioned last week. I have heard (from more than 1 reliable source) that post has gotten around some management types at various rooms here in town.

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I would be more inclined to trust someone in a home game than a stranger in a casino.

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You shouldn't be.

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[henrikrh]

I'm still a tad confused... holding the deck upside down?! So the bottom card is showing and you are dealing offthe bottom (formely the top) of the deck? It just seems stupid. Wouldn;t worry about this being used as a cheating technique anywhere, all people will know is that 1 card (the bottom card) won't get dealt, not a big enough gap in info to take your money unless they alreayd waaay outplay you.

[TheMetetron]

He means the dealt is tiled slighlty so you can't see the top card from where you are seated. This allows second deals quite easily.