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#1
11-26-2005, 10:40 AM
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a few hands from session review
First off, I love these session reviews. I'm always in. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
All of these hands are from prima 1/2 6max. Hand 1: semi-early in the session here. Villain is 37/7/1.75 ** Dealing card to <font color="blue">hero</font> : Queen [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], King [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 1 fold mp called - $1.00 bencobabe fold gymbillc fold <font color="blue">hero</font> bet - $2.00 mp called - $2.00 ** Dealing the flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">hero</font> bet - $1.00 mp raised - $2.00 <font color="blue">hero</font> called - $2.00 ** Dealing the turn: Queen [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">hero</font> checked mp bet - $2.00 <font color="blue">hero</font> raised - $4.00 mp raised - $6.00 <font color="blue">hero</font>… Given villain’s lagginess I figured that I liked to see a queen on the turn here. When he threebets I’m not so sure. Call down or fold here? ------------- Hand 2: on the button here. the only villain of consequence is brand new to the table. ** Dealing card to <font color="blue">hero</font>: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds CO called - $1.00 <font color="blue">hero</font> raised - $2.00 SB called - $2.00 BB called - $2.00 CO called - $2.00 ** Dealing the flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Jack [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] SB bet - $1.00 BB fold CO called - $1.00 <font color="blue">hero</font> raised - $2.00 SB called - $2.00 CO fold ** Dealing the turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB checked <font color="blue">hero</font> bet - $2.00 SB called - $2.00 ** Dealing the river: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB checked <font color="blue">hero</font> … Just check through, or value bet? What if the river was the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]? ------------ Hand 3: from the CO. Villain is the same as in hand 1 – pretty loose pf and not thinking too much postflop. ** Dealing card to <font color="blue">hero</font>: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 folds <font color="blue">hero</font> raised - $2.00 1 fold SB called - $2.00 1 fold ** Dealing the flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Ace [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Queen [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] SB checked <font color="blue">hero</font> bet - $1.00 SB called - $1.00 ** Dealing the turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB checked <font color="blue">hero</font>… Given my pf raise, am I obligated to fire again on this turn? 
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#2
11-26-2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: a few hands from session review
These are all interesting hands.
Hand 1. If I don't fold the flop, I'm betting the Q turn. I don't want to hit my card and have the turn checked through. Hand 2. I personally just fold the flop. The way you played it, check behind on the river. Hand 3. The pot is small and I just picked up some outs - I check behind. I'll be interested to see other responses.
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#3
11-26-2005, 11:08 AM
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Re: a few hands from session review
dude if you're folding that flop in hand 2 I think you're losing money. You'll all manners of paired up 9's, OESD, gutshots, and overcards donking you here.
C'mon man, you know guys like to "find out where [they're] at" I like to show em. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#4
11-26-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: a few hands from session review
You didn't supply that read.
It's not just the donk bet either. It's the combination of the donk + the overcall. It's fair enough to think you're ahead of one muppet but two. At this point, I'd assume you have middle pair and a BD str8 draw. You've got 3.5 outs when behind. You think you're ahead often enough to make this correct? If so, there's something you're not telling us about your opposition. Even if you are ahead, you're getting outdrawn a lot. IMHO>
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#5
11-26-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: a few hands from session review
Hand 1 I'm not sure on. I'm tempted to say call down, but I really think you're in pretty bad shape. The thing is, he's aggressive enough to play both 2pr or a set this way. At 37%, and given this flop, I'm thinking a set is more likely than two pr. I guess I would fold.
Hand 2 I bet this river every time, and I bet it if it were the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hand 3 I bet the turn as the last money I put in the pot unless the river is a 4. However, there is something to be said for checking behind for two reasons. One, you've given up on the hand and you're folding any river bet, or two, you're willing to put in one more bet total with your 4's and by checking behind can sometimes induce a bluff from a somewhat aggressive player. -Jaran
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#6
11-26-2005, 12:20 PM
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Re: a few hands from session review
What's happening dude?
Hand 1. I would have bet the Turn, which means that I wouldn't have been 3 bet. At 6max I find that a lot of players think that if you use the turn checkraise then you're trying to push them off their hand, even if their hand is only TP on the flop. I use the turn checkraise a lot, but not when I've improved on the turn but am not sure of my opponents strength. Hand 2. I always bet this because you have 2 cards on the flop which are lower than your PP. Hand 3. I fire again on the turn and take the free showdown unimproved. I don't want to give a free card here to someone who might pair up on the river.
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#7
11-26-2005, 12:26 PM
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Re: a few hands from session review
the read that i gave was that SB was brand new to the table.
With that said, i don't think I need a read to raise here. Most unknowns will call a wide range from the SB getting 4.5/1.5 Overpairs would reraise here. I also think most monsters either check/raise this flop or check/call and raise the turn vs my aggression. That only leaves naked Jacks that I'm behind here.
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#8
11-26-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: a few hands from session review
[ QUOTE ]
the read that i gave was that SB was brand new to the table. With that said, i don't think I need a read to raise here. Most unknowns will call a wide range from the SB getting 4.5/1.5 Overpairs would reraise here. I also think most monsters either check/raise this flop or check/call and raise the turn vs my aggression. That only leaves naked Jacks that I'm behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I just read this was 6 max.
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#9
11-26-2005, 12:37 PM
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Re: a few hands from session review
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What's happening dude? [/ QUOTE ] sup bro! [ QUOTE ] Hand 1. I would have bet the Turn, which means that I wouldn't have been 3 bet. At 6max I find that a lot of players think that if you use the turn checkraise then you're trying to push them off their hand, even if their hand is only TP on the flop. I use the turn checkraise a lot, but not when I've improved on the turn but am not sure of my opponents strength. [/ QUOTE ] This is an interesting line of thought. In retrospect I should have just donked because of the strong possibility that villain was raising a flush draw. If he has xx[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here, my turn check is the definition of disasterous. I hadn't seen him actually do this yet, but I wouldn't put it beyond him. Also - the more I look at it, the more it seems like I should only be checkraising this turn if I can fold to the threebet. . . . even from this guy. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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