Push or fold this TPTK?

ludo72 · #1 11-11-2005, 12:48 AM

Villain is 29/4/32 and has been doing a lot of limping. Hero is 25/15 and has been on the LAG mode for some time now. Last hand Hero raised ATs big after a couple of limpers and folded on the flop after another player min-raised Hero's continuation bet.

Villain $86, Hero covers

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$100) (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1.00, 1 folds, CO calls $1.00, Button calls $1.00, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $6.00, 3 folds, SB calls $6.00.

Flop: ($17.00) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.00, SB raises to $40.00

BigBiceps · #2 11-11-2005, 01:09 AM

push

jsnipes28 · #3 11-11-2005, 01:09 AM

If you said that you have been raising a lot and folding on the flop to bets and the like, i don't mind a push here. You are afraid of 44 and 22, and possibly a slowplayed KK or AA. Since you have the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] you can discount hands like Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. However, hands like A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or other A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] hands could also be check-raising you here.
I don't think calling and then betting a non-spade turn is a bad idea either. This is nothing definite though- i would be interested in hearing what some of the other posters think about this hand. It seems like a pretty difficult decision (which may be why it hasn't gotten to many replies)

elus2 · #4 11-11-2005, 01:10 AM

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push

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what kind of hand range are you assigning to villain when he c/r's the flop?

ludo72 · #5 11-11-2005, 01:12 AM

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(which may be why it hasn't gotten to many replies)

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Either that or the fact that I posted this hand 5 minutes ago [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

ludo72 · #6 11-11-2005, 07:56 AM

Results: Hero pushes, Villain folds.

This is the right next hand:

Villain is TAG, something like 22/10, nothing out of line this far.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($208.85)
CO ($23.33)
Button ($97.90)
SB ($101.80)
BB ($197.21)
UTG ($88)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $24, UTG folds, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($64) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $35, Hero calls $179.85 (All-In), SB calls $37.80 (All-In).

River: ($316.65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $316.65

Basically I feel that if I'm playing loose-aggressive game pre-flop then I also have to back it up with my stack post-flop because else I'm just going to get run over. If someone happens to hit a set on me when I hit a good flop too then that's just bad luck. The small pots I'm winning in the meanwhile make up for the implied odds I'm willing to give others, and ofcourse if the other guy is so tight it's easy to tell when he's got one pair beat then I can consider making these laydowns. What do you all think?

vanHelsing · #7 11-11-2005, 08:05 AM

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Villain is 29/4/32

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What do the 32 stand for?
Usually stats are posted as Vpip/Pfr/Af, but 32 looks a bit much to be Af. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ludo72 · #8 11-11-2005, 08:11 AM

It's PokerAce HUD's Aggression Frequency number which is meant to replace A-f because of its inaccuracy (don't ask me about that). 10-30 is quite passive, 30-50 is quite standard and anything above is very aggressive. I'm usually running around 40-50.