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Old 08-05-2005, 08:55 AM
ludo72 ludo72 is offline
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Default KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

Villain is 32.4/2.94/0.88 after only 34 hands. Hasn't done anything unusual since I sat down.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($34.70)
Hero ($35)
BB ($75.45)
UTG ($34.80)
MP ($11.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $5.

River: ($30.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $19.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.20

I don't feel good about the way the hand played out but I can't figure out how should I have played it instead. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

When I think more about the hand I think I probably should have bet the pot on flop, either fold the turn or call the turn and call the river, is this correct? Which turn line is generally better here?
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

I'd bet more than the $5 on the turn but I doubt that made the villain play the hand any differently....
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

You also might be ahead and have 8 outs against two pair (two kings and 6 cards to counterfeit his hand)
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

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When I think more about the hand I think I probably should have bet the pot on flop...

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I don't know about that. It's a great board for a pair of kings. I think you want some action here, and I don't mind your $3 bet at all.

On the turn, I'd bet more than half-pot though, as obviously the board just got a lot scarier. If I bet out for $7.50, and he min-raised that or a bit more, good question. I think I could find a fold if the guy was really straightforward, but if he's an unknown I'd call the min-raise and call up to half-pot on any river that doesn't put a four-straight or four-flush on board.

As the hand played out I have no problem with your river fold.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

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I don't know about that. It's a great board for a pair of kings. I think you want some action here, and I don't mind your $3 bet at all.

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When I played the hand I thought this way too, but betting only little on the flop made my turn decision much harder. After he called my pre-flop raise I don't think he would fold a Queen on that flop.

Thanks for all the replies this far [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

Personally, I like your preflop bet. On the Flop I probably would have bet him half of his stack and tried to take it down right there. I try to think worst case, he has pocket Qs, I check the turn, if he checks he, he's drawing. Then the river gives the flush away, he bets, I fold. But then again I suck at this game [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

What I don't understand is that why did you just call the turn bet?
If you're beat, then you should just fold your hand. If CO has two pair, you have 8 outs, and you're getting 5: 25 and you need 17%. If you have a set, you've lost. If he has pocket pair or any Queen, you're a favorite. I think you should either push or fold. Given that you're OOP, a check on the river will just indicate weakness.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

what about a turn push? just looking for opinions on the move
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: KK hand from 6-max, how did I do?

I like a c/r on the flop. My read is this guy had QJ... which would be enough to open-miniraise on the button and call with position.
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