Who the best and worst tippers?? (For Dealers, but anyone is welcome

[InkyWretch]

Mason is right.

A new cardroom just opened here. An older guy, probably in his 60s, named Chip is working there as a dealer. Turns out, he dealt in Vegas years and years ago.

He rakes in more tips than anybody else because he keeps the game going in a professional manner and because he's able to carry on a conversation while doing so.

He and I have a standing agreement that he'll tell stories from the old days in Vegas at $1 per. He was telling a few one night and nobody else was taking care of him. So he started whispering the stories to me when I folded. It was pissing off a few of the other players. But Chip just smiled and said "This gentleman is the only one paying to hear the stories. If you'll follow his lead, you'll all get to hear what he's hearing."

Obviously, new dealers won't have those experiences to help build tips. But you can learn from watching the older guys.

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He rakes in more tips than anybody else because he keeps the game going in a professional manner and because he's able to carry on a conversation while doing so.

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No no no!!! says Mason. Imagine how much more he'd make in tips if he wasn't carrying on a conversation!

[InkyWretch]

Well, it should be noted that he adjusts his game to the table. When he's at the 5/10 NL table, he scales it back and only speaks when needed. The story-telling usually happens at the 4/8 tables.

[Mason Malmuth]

I agree. I much prefer to have the dealer paying attention to the game at hand.

Best wishes,
mason

[tylerdurden]

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Also, while you are of course free to post whatever you want, I politely requested for thoughts on this topic, not braindead comments that you were apparently too lazy to provide evidence or argument for or even to construct a banal joke around. Thanks for playing anyway, though.

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Well, there have been about 4 xillion threads on this topic. Every single one of them has a bunch of cheapskates trying to justify their stiffing the dealers. Search if you want to read their "thoughts" on the matter, otherwise get flamed.

My personal opinion: if you don't want to tip, then that's fine, don't tip, but STFU, we don't want to hear convoluted justifications of how you think tipping is bad or how you think dealer quality would magically remain constant if everyone suddenly quit tipping.

[balt999]

Mason,

As much as I respect your opinion I have to disagree...At the lower limits (Which are Bally's main games), 98 percent of the people are NOT going to tip based on how a dealer runs a game...

[Burno]

FWIW, Tips does not stand for To insure prompt service or anything like that.

Would you like to know more?

http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.htm

[Jordan Olsommer]

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Well, there have been about 4 xillion threads on this topic. Every single one of them has a bunch of cheapskates trying to justify their stiffing the dealers. Search if you want to read their "thoughts" on the matter, otherwise get flamed.

My personal opinion: if you don't want to tip, then that's fine, don't tip, but STFU, we don't want to hear convoluted justifications of how you think tipping is bad or how you think dealer quality would magically remain constant if everyone suddenly quit tipping.

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That's funny, I recall having said that I've never even been in a position to tip or not tip a dealer, and wasn't arguing against the practice per se, merely asking for the reasons behind it.

And thanks for telling me to "STFU" when, if you want to look at the question from the point of view of someone who actually wants to learn something about the world, you'll realize that the burden of proof is on the person who is pro-tipping, not con. And bonus points for then saying that *my* viewpoint is the convoluted one.

Perhaps someone may be against tipping on principle because he thinks the casino/cardroom should pay their dealers a better wage so as not to require such a relatively awkward practice?

As far as dealer quality goes, let's just run through a quick common-sense kindergarten economics cram session: Assume everybody in every card room stops tipping instantaneously. What happens? Dealers either a) complain to their boss, or b) quit. The boss does nothing until the situation affects his current or potential business negatively (as would any other businessman). If people were to somehow continue not tipping, the boss would either pay the dealers more (and increase the rake proportionately), or in some other way "require" a gratuity (which is the exact same thing as increasing the rake proportionately). The quality of dealers will not go down to intolerable levels because (again, getting back to simple fingerpaint-and-graham-crackers economics) if they were, players would stop playing at that location, the cardroom would lose business, and they'd take measures to get the quality back up (paying the dealers more for extra training, probably) to get the players back. But hey, common sense is so convoluted - "everybody else is doing it" is much more logical. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But no, my lot is to STFU because you don't want to hear it, but your opinion comprised of literally nothing more than appeals to popularity and ad hominems is perfectly fine - after all, where else are we to find the fuel with which I am to be "flamed"?

[DeadMoneyOC]

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I've been working at BAllys Poker room for 3 weeks and I've come to my personal observation of who are the best and worst tippers...

1) Young Asian Males (By far the best; Doesn't matter what the pot is..they'll throw 3 or 4 bucks at a time)
2) Mid/Older Males
3) Women
4) Young White Males (By far are the worst, expecially if it's NL)

Thoughts??

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I played yesterday with this very young asian girl who tipped at least 7$ in everypot. The best was when she won a pot that was probably about 30$ and then pushed half of it back to the dealer! Everyone kinda laughed to themselves and looked at this girl strange(she was cute too!). It got even funnier when this funny guy in his mid-20s won another pot that was about 30$ and jopkingly pushed half of it to the dealer. Then everyone started hurting their lungs from laughing too hard. The girl only flashed the table a smirk and went back to reading her book. Very strange...

I think people in low limit games tip waaay too much though. I think you should tip 1$ for average size pots and 2$ for big pots. I see people tipping 5$ for pots that arent even 10BBs...

[Gramps]

I don't get all the talk about not tipping the dealers handsomely. Everyone knows that if you don't tip the dealers well, they won't give you good cards. I like getting good cards, so I can win more monster pots, and tip the dealers handsomely again. It more than pays for itself when you think about it from a logical perspective...