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Old 12-26-2005, 06:10 PM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default 15/30 KK value bet the river?

Great loose game. The opponents are average and aggressive.

How's the line, and do you value bet the river given the all-in player?

Garland

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Preflop: Garland is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7.66 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Garland calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises</font>, UTG+1 calls all-in, UTG+2 calls.

River: (11.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, Garland ???
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

running bad?
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

the way it's played that's an autobet.... I would raise the flop however to knock utg+1 off of A3
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

I would bet. UTG+2 would lead the river with an 8 and if UTG+1 does indeed hold an 8, the extra BB gained from UTG+2 will make you feel a little better =]
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

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running bad?

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Actually, all in all, I've been running really good.

Garland
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

IMO, a bet is in order. As has been noted, for an 8 to check seems ridiculous.

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?

I really doubt from his play that he has an 8 and will call you with a lot of hands that you beat. I'd bet it.

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Old 12-27-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Results and thoughts...

I think I like the idea of waiting until the turn to pop them. I'll risk the A not coming and with a paired board 99, I'm either way ahead or way behind. As it turned out, not raising the flop netted me 2 more big bets from UTG+1 who was drawing extremely thin.

I wussed out on the river though. I checked behind. Some of my "no-limit" mentality leaked through. I was shown UTG+1 = "QTo" for turned top pair and UTG+2 had "A7o".

Thanks for your thoughts.

Garland
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: Results and thoughts...

very ez bet.
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