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Old 12-02-2005, 01:46 PM
SippinSoma SippinSoma is offline
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

If there's any chance LAG would remember this hand in the future, I like your line best. I can think of a couple other lines, but there's little difference b/w which one you take.
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Old 12-02-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

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If there's any chance LAG would remember this hand in the future, I like your line best. I can think of a couple other lines, but there's little difference b/w which one you take.

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hte value you give up by not raising is not worth the value of the lag remembering.

raise flop or turn.

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Old 12-02-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

I agree with those who want to raise flop. Mostly because if I get 3 bet there I don't mind it nearly as much as if I get 3 bet on one of the big streets. Unless the guy is quite LAGgy postflop too then its a brand new ballgame and I'd want to see like 5 bb go in.

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Old 12-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

Even a 12.2 PFR percantage probably isn't capping all that light. I still like a flop raise however, and then re-evaluate if he 3 bets or you get c/r on the turn.

Given the way you played, and the river card, I raise the river and call a 3bet. Its not unbelievable for you to have 55 in this spot, and while I don't think the villian would muck AA or KK if he had them, I don't think he's going to 3bet the river with them. He might not even 3bet if he lucked out and caught an 8. And, as I type all of this it makes me wonder why i'd call the 3bet, but I would. I'd hate for him to get crazy with TT and muck a winner here.

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Old 12-02-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

What do you guys think he caps with preflop? Does he always cap JJ? AK? Even AKs?

I think my PFR was about 12 when I stopped playing full. I don't think I'd cap AK or in his spot. Obviously his vpip indicated taht he's not very good, but as far as raising he seems to be on track.

Fwiw:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Board: 6s 4c 2h 7s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 43.6759 % [ 00.42 00.02 ] { QsQh }
Hand 2: 56.3241 % [ 00.54 00.02 ] { AA-JJ, AKs } </pre><hr />

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Board: 6s 4c 2h 7s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 58.3117 % [ 00.57 00.01 ] { QsQh }
Hand 2: 41.6883 % [ 00.40 00.01 ] { AA-JJ, AKs, AKo } </pre><hr />

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Board: 6s 4c 2h 7s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 25.4011 % [ 00.22 00.03 ] { QsQh }
Hand 2: 74.5989 % [ 00.72 00.03 ] { AA-QQ, AKs } </pre><hr />


This is if he caps JJ and AKo 50% of the time.
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Board: 6s 4c 2h 7s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 47.5524 % [ 00.46 00.02 ] { QsQh }
Hand 2: 52.4476 % [ 00.51 00.02 ] { AA---QQ--, AKs, AKo }</pre><hr />
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Overpair in position (I don\'t play full ring)

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Your stats are missing postflop aggression.

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I don't like using aggression numbers. I think it's the most misleading stat in the world and I don't have any idea how many hands I need before I can trust it.
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