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Old 11-30-2005, 08:49 PM
ludo72 ludo72 is offline
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Default 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($200)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($368.69)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB ($196)</font>
BB ($339.08)
UTG ($50)
MP ($99.07)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. UTG posts a blind of $2.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB (poster) calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($20) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, SB calls $15.

Turn: ($50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, SB calls $40.

River: ($130) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes</font>

Final Pot:

Hero is playing like a borderline maniac but denies being on tilt. Good news is that Villain doesn't know this because he just sat down. Bad news is that Hero doesn't know anything about Villain. Considering all this, is this a chip spew?
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:06 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

3-barrel bluffs win 2-barrel pots. But when you are wrong they lose your whole stack. I'd me more inclined to think about this if that wasn't a diamond on the river. I'd check behind either the flop or turn. Not sure which, but one of them for sure.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:18 PM
amoeba amoeba is offline
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

the turn is the perfect scare card to bluff.

but once he calls that. you have pretty much zero fold equity on the river.

what are you representing on the river?
KQd? AA?

I think this is spewing.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:20 PM
jjb108 jjb108 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

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I think this is spewing.

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Old 11-30-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

No read = no bluff
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

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three barrell bluff against an unknown

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hey read that again
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:31 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

Are you even trying to put him on a hand, or do you just REALLY REALLY want this pot?

What on earth does he call the turn bet with that he folds to the river bet?

Not to mention, you just picked up some showdown value.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

When I read this title I was 90% sure it was spewing. It is.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:44 PM
ludo72 ludo72 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL three barrell bluff against an unknown

Ok I kinda thought so. My thinking at the time was that the turn is a good bluff card for me so I opted not to check behind. He calls so I guess he has something like a high pocket pair and doesn't want to fold or a weak T that thinks this as WA/WB. When the river flush hits I thought that'd make for another good scare card because I could very well imagine myself firing two barrels with a flushdraw. Now that I think about it it's probably too much for him to think this way too and therefore I don't have much fold equity at all. I wasn't trying to represent any hand in particular because the board itself is kinda scary and I could have a lot of hands.

He called me with KK and I reminded myself not to bluff against unknowns.
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