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Old 12-27-2005, 01:05 PM
arod15 arod15 is offline
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Dont play nl400 unless you have 30 (or absolutely min. 20) buy-ins because I think you will think to much about the money worth if you do...

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I disagree. I think it depends on the person. I think the 10 buy in rule is just a general guidline. Some people have no fear of money and play with just 2-3 buy ins. I'm not suggesting that for most but I dont think it is a must to have 30 buy ins for the 400NL game. For 2 reasons. 1 its not that tough and two you can always move back down. Also, The biggest factor is your value of money. If you feel uncomfortable putting your stack at risk your playing too high of limit regardless of how many buy ins you have.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

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Dont play nl400 unless you have 30 (or absolutely min. 20) buy-ins because I think you will think to much about the money worth if you do...

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I disagree. I think it depends on the person. I think the 10 buy in rule is just a general guidline. Some people have no fear of money and play with just 2-3 buy ins. I'm not suggesting that for most but I dont think it is a must to have 30 buy ins for the 400NL game. For 2 reasons. 1 its not that tough and two you can always move back down. Also, The biggest factor is your value of money. If you feel uncomfortable putting your stack at risk your playing too high of limit regardless of how many buy ins you have.

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as usual you're missing the point about bankroll... its about not having to reload, not having a replenishable bankroll.

15 is standard in lower level games less than 5/10.

ship it.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

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Dont play nl400 unless you have 30 (or absolutely min. 20) buy-ins because I think you will think to much about the money worth if you do...

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I disagree. I think it depends on the person. I think the 10 buy in rule is just a general guidline. Some people have no fear of money and play with just 2-3 buy ins. I'm not suggesting that for most but I dont think it is a must to have 30 buy ins for the 400NL game. For 2 reasons. 1 its not that tough and two you can always move back down. Also, The biggest factor is your value of money. If you feel uncomfortable putting your stack at risk your playing too high of limit regardless of how many buy ins you have.

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as usual you're missing the point about bankroll... its about not having to reload, not having a replenishable bankroll.

15 is standard in lower level games less than 5/10.

ship it.

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15 is fine but 30 buy ins? That is excessive in my mind. Again, that is why i say its all personal preference. Also, it depends on your motivation for playing. I play for fun and for the competition. I have other income coming in. I have no aspirations to turn pro although I do tracks wins and losses just for personal information and see what leaks I have and take losing seriously (again not for the money but because im competetive). For me, having 15 buy ins is not neccassary. If I lose I reload if I win I cash out. I do agree with you if you this is your only form of income. But like I said the bankroll thing in my oppinion is just a guidline and to each there own.....
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:40 PM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

So... you started off with 10 buy ins, and haven't won in a tiny sample size. What is the question?
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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john,
[censored] happens.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

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after all, thats the number 1 reason why we are playing the game.

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I strongly disagree with this statement.
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

lol, so you had a 2 buy in swing up.. then a 2 buyin swing down. Then a 1 buyin swing down.. and you're thinking the world is ending?
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

Move up rationally.
Continue to play 1/2 as your primary game. Each week take a day and play 2/4 buy in short $100-$150 this will help you play more aggressively and make it more difficult to experience large losses.
Do not try to move up completely with 10 buy-ins if you use this method you can get comfortable with the game and not risk your bankroll.
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:13 PM
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I like this analysis, Grifter. I mean, look, right now 2-4 for you should be a learning experience. If you look around games - especially on Fulltilt, where I play, you are quite likely to find a game where 3 or even 4 players are in there with ~$200. Good luck, man.

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: 2-4NL, will i ever establish myself at this limit??

You need a bigger bankroll.

I played my way up to $5K at 1/2 NL, playing very short-handed (HU or 3 handed, mostly), and dumped a majority of my roll in the space of a week losing coin-flips and LAG-type pushes. I dropped down to NL$100 and decided the next time I make it up to a $3,500 roll, I'd buy in half at NL200 HU or SH, so as to avoid bluffs and huge river decisions. I made an absolute killing and now have more than 30 buy ins at NL200, where I now buy in full.

It sucks to move down in limits. But I think theGrifter's advice is right on. You're posting about a tiny swing - you're clearly underbankrolled.
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