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Old 11-28-2005, 07:08 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

Villian has been raising quite a bit pre-flop and is a bit LAG...though definately not manic. I havent seen him play a hand like this before.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (11.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (17.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.20 BB

I called on the flop to try and force the BB out on the turn...standard play in a big pot where many turn cards are bad for me?

How about the rest of the hand? Ok or too weak?
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:12 PM
Reqtech Reqtech is offline
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

What do you BB has that you would want to push him out on the turn with? If he had a flush draw or OESD, he's not going anywhere.

Ram and jam that flop. If after capping the flop and still getting 3 bet on the turn, I think I would call the river bet, too.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

Start by 3-betting the flop and capping the turn. Hand plays out a lot differently that way. If he bets out the river after this I just call. You see AA/KK here a lot. You are only behind JJ QQ and T9.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

Cap the flop(Debateable though, CO hanging around = More cash i reckon) but Cap the turn, If MP bets river then umm call.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

if you only put in two bets on the flop, you gotta cap the turn IMO.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

and high diamonds.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

I like the wait until turn raise. He should fold a gutshout but wouldn't fold it on the flop. You can also count on MP betting.

I don't think capping the flop is terrible since it's unlikely that BB has a gutshot.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

Didnt see the flush. Maybe a very poorly played AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]..
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:24 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Re: Am i a weak/tight little munchkin?

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What do you BB has that you would want to push him out on the turn with? If he had a flush draw or OESD, he's not going anywhere.

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My idea was to get him to fold an inside straight draw, which is a possible hand against these muppets.
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