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Old 12-01-2005, 09:06 PM
bottomset bottomset is offline
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Default Re: Expert Play according to the Table Coach

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So if you were planning on folding the turn UI, why call the flop with 3 outs? Whatever he bet with OOP on the flop he'll probably continue with on the turn, winning or otherwise. If you folded UI here you just would have spent an extra SB before folding the best hand.


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my experience with superweaktight players is that they give up, and switch to check/call/pray mode unless they are superstrong

so that 1SB often buys 2cards, and 8.5/1 with some possibility of being ahead seems like a decent price

Obviously my read was off on this specific hand, and subsequently changed to reflect the newfound info, since WT players don't play 65s, let alone 3bet the turn with bottompair/fd

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Even under ideal conditions, limping 98s UTG is marginal. I think you underestimate the value of position with these hands. It's very hard to minimize a positional disadvantage against multiple loose passive players.


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I didn't say it was a slamdunk you need to play this hand, I know you weren't specifically talking to me, but I will defend the limp a little, if its a mistake to limp its a tiny one, I'd estimate if I misjudge the table, I'll get around .45BB back on my .5BB investment, a 0.05BB misstep, which is minimal. Most preflop errors are small in magnitude(hence the don't focus on it too much attitude) where you get in trouble is small errors that you have the opportunity to make very often. So if I limp JTs-98s UTG(10handed) everytime, I get one of those 3hands 1/110, and get one UTG 1/1110 so even if I lose .25BB everytime I limp, its still miniscule overall. I'm comfortable with my postflop play, and look to play hands that have big pot potential whenever I can, these medium suited connectors are those types of hands.
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