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Old 10-25-2004, 05:07 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Default Party 15/30 stats check

Hi all. Im usually SH-player. But the last time i tryed 15/30 full game and i was very happy to find that it's much more easier to my opinion to support many tables and much easier than 15/30 6-max party games. So i start playing and running good 4-tabling. But the one thing that worried me is high variance i get. It's 19.21BB/100 with 3.84BB/100 WR in a 17K hands. So i want to see some holes in my game and im pretty sure i can't sustain in a long term more than 3.5BB/100 4-tabling in these games. I want to see your opinions 'bout my stats as well as to see some of your stats in a longer distance than mine in these games.

Of course my sample is small especially with such variance, but some tendencies are might seen right now.

These first stats are filtered between 7 and 10 players on a table.

VPIP 21.61%
VPIP from SB 52.05%
WentToSD 35.39%
Won$atSD 50.62%
PFR 11.07%
Raise first in 5.63%
Cold call PF - 0.78%
Won$whenSawflop: 37.78%
Limp with callers: 4.92%


These stats are not filtered as i don't know how to do it in PT (is it allowed?):

Folded SB to steal 70.40%
Folded BB to steal 43.74%
Folded BB to steal HU 31.09 (the meaning of this stat i don't understan at all)
Att to steal blinds: 32.91%

Agression:
PF 0.92
F 2.61
T 2.47
R 2.04
TOT 1.64

I would glad for any inputs and opinions.
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Old 10-25-2004, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

i'd be interested to know your win rates for BB and SB as you defend much more liberally than i do.
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Old 10-25-2004, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

I didn't mention them cause my sample is too small and they're meaningless yet.

SB -0.08
BB -0.13

filtered between 7 and 10 players.
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

Well, I wouldn't worry about the variance if you are winning close to 4 bets / 100. Your variance isn't way higher than everyone else, the stats I've seen run around 15/100.

I with PT would give first in raise% as first in raise vs. call, not vs all hands (or whatever they use).

Otherwise I think it looks great. You could perhaps be a tad more aggressive, but I can't argue with the results.
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

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Your variance isn't way higher than everyone else, the stats I've seen run around 15/100.

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I guessed that variance in full game must be way lower than in SH. In 10/20 6max game i had variance of 16.3BB/100. I think cypher of 12-13BB/100 for full is normal, but 19 hmm. Am i missed something?
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Old 10-26-2004, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

With this win rate (3.84), a SD of 19 is good.

Your bankroll requirement is 216 BB, well below the recommended 300.

Formula: [9*(SD^2)]/(4*WR)
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Old 10-26-2004, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

I know it. But other formulas said that i don't know my original ev now and it can be within rough 1 and 6 with 95% confidence. So if im a bit higher than 1 i need more bankroll.
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:58 PM
Yobz Yobz is offline
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

Holy crap, 3.5BB/100 in 15/30? I'm a small stakes player but I thought that was unsustainable? Never really bothered to look it up, but what is "good" for a long term (100k+ hands) 15/30 full tabler person?
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

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With this win rate (3.84), a SD of 19 is good.

Your bankroll requirement is 216 BB, well below the recommended 300.

Formula: [9*(SD^2)]/(4*WR)

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That assumes he knows his true win rate. It doesn't really apply to the original poster.
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Party 15/30 stats check

Isn't SD almost as meaningless as winrate with this sample size?
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