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Old 09-24-2005, 09:43 PM
Online247 Online247 is offline
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Default Re: 99+2 Overcards+3 Opponents-Draws

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This is the first SB that I've posted at the table, and no pt reads. But typical PP1/2 6maxers are insultingly loose.

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Preflop: The Reddmeister is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">The Reddmeister raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">The Reddmeister bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, The Reddmeister ...

Does anybody not bet this on the flop? And having bet it, what is my flop, turn, and river plan now?

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I hate betting into 4 opponents on a scary board like that, and am very surprised others felt a flop bet here is good.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:07 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: 99+2 Overcards+3 Opponents-Draws

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This is the first SB that I've posted at the table, and no pt reads. But typical PP1/2 6maxers are insultingly loose.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: The Reddmeister is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">The Reddmeister raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">The Reddmeister bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, The Reddmeister ...

Does anybody not bet this on the flop? And having bet it, what is my flop, turn, and river plan now?

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I hate betting into 4 opponents on a scary board like that, and am very surprised others felt a flop bet here is good.

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Well... you're really only betting into 3 players. That's a huge 25% better.

The only reason you check this flop is to check-fold (or check-raise a guy who will autobet from the button). It's a shorthanded game with very loose players, and the pot is 8 bets big. You can't check-call then check-fold profitably because you don't improve often enough. So you've got to bet it.

Automatically check-folding gives up way too much because of the pot size (because you raised preflop). If Hero limps preflop, a check-fold is fine.
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