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Old 10-03-2004, 10:43 AM
King_J King_J is offline
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Default Re: I flop 2 pair but hate my hand

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hi barry

this is a tough one barry, but you should raise, hoping to improve if reraised. unfortunate problems can crop up if the MP comes to life, and this is a situation that can become costly when that happens. and this is the whole reason for the raise.

you need to represent the straight to keep the MP lower straight from raising of the expensive round. you are also looking to fold that MP out of course, because if the EP doesn't come over the top, you want heads up action on the turn.

that is what is so important. you must reraise to driveout that MP.

on the turn, mo matter what card hits, you want to be checked to by the EP. so you reraise to driveout the MP, and to get checked to on the turn by the EP; much like raising for a free-showdown. i guess you could call it some type of variation of a free-showdown raise or something. and here's where your 2+2 schooling comes in because then, if you can manipulate the EP into checking to you on the turn, you check the turn down, provided of course that your heads up.

this technique gives you a much better idea about where you are in the hand, and also gets out a nuisancesome MP turn raiser who decideds to do a little representation betting of his own.

you need to reraise that flop barry.

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A well respected poster talks about flop-reraises. Unless I missed something really bad I get scared when I hear this. It is just a single raise, not a re-raise?
Or what did I miss?
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Old 10-03-2004, 09:24 PM
elysium elysium is offline
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Default Re: I flop 2 pair but hate my hand

hi king

yeah, that's what i get for posting with the ol' headphones on. actually, the correction concerned my suggestion that barry needed to stop the lower straight from reraising. well, there is no lower straight, but he should still reraise to driveout the MP, and to stop the MP aggression. it isn't capped at 3 bets is it?
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