Now David, I am angry!!!!

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I think it's time you stopped berating players about the math. You are perhaps mathematically correct +/- a few % about the hands you may use for example, but it isn't the only answer!

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My father used to have a phrase that he would say to me from time to time, back when I was a teenager and was going through the “I’m smarter than my parents” phase:

“Your mind has slammed shut like a steel trap. You are not hearing what I’m saying because you don’t like the way I’m saying it.”

The same thing is happening here. Listen to David and you might learn something. Don’t get all wrapped up in how he says it. He may sound gruff and offend your sensibilities, but you might also learn something. Aside from the specific question that sparked this discussion, the message here is now very simple: learn the basics (math), then learn the advanced techniques (reading players). Any other way is losing poker.