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11-07-2005, 01:58 AM
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Ultra deep stacks (no content)
Working on a paper, decided to sit at the UB no cap .01/.02 NL game. Bought in for my full UB roll of about $160. Directly to my right is a gentleman sitting behind three quarters of a million BBs. He appears to be playing erratically and pushing that whole amount pretty much every other hand.
He asks me if my buy-in is my full bankroll. I say that it is. He asks, "Would you like to flip coins for your entire bankroll?" We go on in this fashion, him talking about how much money he has and how insignificant my bankroll is, me trying desperately to get him to move in more and waiting for a premium hand. Eventually, I pick up QQ, the maniac pushes, and I instacall and drag a 15,000 BB pot. The maniac says, "Bobbo, did you just jizz your pants? I'm going to make you a rich man tonight." At this point, I make a terrible error and point out that $15,000 doesn't really make someone rich. He left the next orbit, possibly because of what I said... tragic. 
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11-07-2005, 02:02 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
Funny thing is, you're almost destined to go broke even if you always call as a 70% favorite (which is tough to do!). The best thing to do would be to win once and then re-sit with the original amount.
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11-07-2005, 02:06 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
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The maniac says, "Bobbo, did you just jizz your pants? [/ QUOTE ] If only I got fewer old men to say that and more younger girls, I'd be a happier person.
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#4
11-07-2005, 02:07 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
I ran into this situation once. I 5/10 player was pushing every hand at NL10. At the time, I had about $120 or so in my roll. I doubled up and then some, only to lose my 3 buyin stack with KQs to some trash hand. I would have left and bought in for less, but rules prevent this and there was a huge waiting list for the table.
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#5
11-07-2005, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
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Funny thing is, you're almost destined to go broke even if you always call as a 70% favorite (which is tough to do!). The best thing to do would be to win once and then re-sit with the original amount. [/ QUOTE ] No way. I wasn't leaving that table until one of us was busted. $300 is a sizeable amount of poker money (for me at least), but it's not really so much that the new money is worth marginally less than the money i'd be losing. Let it ride baby!
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#6
11-07-2005, 02:25 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
That's what I'm saying, if you were to play until one of you broke and you ALWAYS got your money in as a 70/30 favorite you would have around a 90% chance to go broke, and that doesn't even take in to consideration the blinds that you'd lose by folding until you got a hand that was 70/30.
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#7
11-07-2005, 02:56 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
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Funny thing is, you're almost destined to go broke even if you always call as a 70% favorite (which is tough to do!). The best thing to do would be to win once and then re-sit with the original amount. [/ QUOTE ] Hmm. I think we went over something like this in Mid/High recently, or somewhere else. Anyway, it's a big debate in the Probability forum, and the best way to play it is to go until one of you is busted. That's the best EV; although you go broke a large majority of the time, you make the most Sklansky bucks by keeping the money on the table.
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#9
11-07-2005, 03:39 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
Well I read this while waiting to play the PLO tourney coming up at Stars and decided to play in it. Here is my wonderful play...
Hand #9174856-24880 at Fort McMurray (No Limit Hold'em) Powered by UltimateBet Started at 07/Nov/05 02:24:26 el burro512 is at seat 0 with $1.84. TANK ABBOT is at seat 1 with $11.91. RGMAN is at seat 2 with $3.95. dudester2004 is at seat 3 with $1.13. Ubeenraised is at seat 4 with $18.34. rs5050 is at seat 5 with $778.52. patrickma81 is at seat 6 with $802.50 (sitting out). IRyedShortBus is at seat 7 with $28.30. balston is at seat 9 with $2.53. The button is at seat 7. balston posts the small blind of $.01. el burro512 posts the big blind of $.02. el burro512: -- -- TANK ABBOT: -- -- RGMAN: -- -- dudester2004: -- -- Ubeenraised: -- -- rs5050: -- -- IRyedShortBus: 5d 7d balston: -- -- Pre-flop: TANK ABBOT raises to $.04. RGMAN folds. dudester2004 calls. Ubeenraised calls. rs5050 folds. IRyedShortBus re-raises to $.12. balston folds. el burro512 folds. TANK ABBOT re-raises to $.47("I have a big pair"). dudester2004 folds. Ubeenraised folds. IRyedShortBus calls. Flop (board: 7s 9h Qd): TANK ABBOT checks("I have QQ and I'm slowplaying it"). IRyedShortBus checks(I know you have QQ you would bet with AA/KK and you don't have AK"). Turn (board: 7s 9h Qd 7c): TANK ABBOT bets $.18("I have QQ"). IRyedShortBus raises to $.36("so I have a 7"). TANK ABBOT re-raises to $.54("I have QQ damnit"). IRyedShortBus calls("so you do"). River (board: 7s 9h Qd 7c 5h): TANK ABBOT goes all-in for $10.90("well I've bet like a pussy this whole time, time to make some money cuz he doesn't know what I have"). IRyedShortBus calls("I know you have QQ but I wanna see it". Showdown: TANK ABBOT shows Qs Qh. TANK ABBOT has Qs Qh 7s Qd 7c: full house, queens full of sevens. IRyedShortBus shows 5d 7d. IRyedShortBus has 5d 7d 7s 7c 5h: full house, sevens full of fives. Hand #9174856-24880 Summary: $1.15 is raked from a pot of $23.93. TANK ABBOT wins $22.78 with full house, queens full of sevens. That was my wonderful experience. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#10
11-07-2005, 07:02 AM
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Re: Ultra deep stacks (no content)
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KQs to some trash hand. I would have left and bought in for less, but rules prevent this and there was a huge waiting list for the table. [/ QUOTE ] You shouldt had played KQs for your whole stack in this situation.
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