kk vs maniac, dangerous monotone flop

[creedofhubris]

$5/$10 NL, villain has $550, I have him covered.

Villain is very loose preflop, raises a lot of trash, calls a lot of raises and reraises, gives action postflop. He's also eager to play me since I got most of his stack five minutes before by calling a monster turn raise with just a weak flush draw, which came in.

Villain makes it $30 from MP (standard with any 2), I make it $100 from CO with black KK, everyone else gets out of the way, he calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Pot is $200. Villain ($450) checks. Your move, and plan for the rest of the hand?

[Rocaix]

Pot it, get all-in on the flop. I'd even consider, pushing when checked to.

[xorbie]

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Pot it, get all-in on the flop. I'd even consider, pushing when checked to.

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Worst advice ever.

Any random [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] with any random pair is a favorite right now.

[HoldEmKillah]

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Any random [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] with any random pair is a favorite right now.

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I never even realized this. Man. I better go read some books or somethin'.

[flawless_victory]

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Any random [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] with any random pair is a favorite right now.

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I never even realized this. Man. I better go read some books or somethin'.

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holyshit. glad you run good homie. wow.

[tdarko]

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Pot it, get all-in on the flop. I'd even consider, pushing when checked to.


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huh? you can't be serious?

[FoxwoodsFiend]

If this is a leak, it's a very small one-I don't get away from overpairs against shortstacks. bet the flop for about 200, call any all in, fold if he bets out when a heart comes. you can't be worried about the flush, and if he has the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] it's a coinflip, but you I'd rather coinflip for another 450 then lose the pot if a heart comes after i've checked behind.

[Jason Strasser]

Keep the pot small, check the flop. On the turn keep your options open. If he's viable to lead with a draw or combo draw with a pair, then you may want to raise a turn bet with the plan of checking the river. Just one option tho.

-Jason

oops did not see stack sizes. Check and evaluate turn.

[xorbie]

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$5/$10 NL, villain has $550, I have him covered.

Villain is very loose preflop, raises a lot of trash, calls a lot of raises and reraises, gives action postflop. He's also eager to play me since I got most of his stack five minutes before by calling a monster turn raise with just a weak flush draw, which came in.

Villain makes it $30 from MP (standard with any 2), I make it $100 from CO with black KK, everyone else gets out of the way, he calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Pot is $200. Villain ($450) checks. Your move, and plan for the rest of the hand?

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Look.. this flop sucks. It sucks hard. You're a favorite against A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q and that's about it (and even that is a coinflip), so if any money goes in here with villain calling you're either a huge dog or a slight dog.

[tewall]

From the way you've described the fellow, you must expect to be ahead of him. Plus the stacks are small. So I can't see how you can get away from being committed to all-in in this situation. Just because the flop sucks is no reason to assume it's hit him.

I think you need to assume you're ahead, which is very likely true (unless he's the type of player who would autobet unless he had something good to c/r with). You have to bet to protect your hand. A standard bet, like 150, is enough to keep him from calling correctly with nothing but a flush draw, so that seems fine. If he comes over the top, call without hesitation as your getting 4 to 1 for your call.