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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
If you bet and he check-raises all in what is your action?
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
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If you bet and he check-raises all in what is your action? [/ QUOTE ] Call, it's missed diamonds as often as it's an ace. |
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
I think he was asking me, but I tend to fold.
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
I need to start playing in more games where people are check/raising the river with missed diamonds on a paired board.
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
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I need to start playing in more games where people are check/raising the river with missed diamonds on a paired board. [/ QUOTE ] I need to start playing in games where people check all three streets with top pair. |
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
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[ QUOTE ] If you bet and he check-raises all in what is your action? [/ QUOTE ] Call, it's missed diamonds as often as it's an ace. [/ QUOTE ] betting vs checking the river is debatable, but calling a c/r is gross. you're going to see Ax a lot more often than missed diamonds. it's going to be a big c/r. |
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
If you bet the flop and he check/raises all in you fold and get dealt the next hand.
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
I tend to prefer betting the flop. If this player isn't tricky, do you think he's going to go through the process you presumably want him to go through of "Hmmm, guy in last position bets at pot when nobody has taken a shot, better call with my J5?" I think a T can call you, I think betting the flop can frequently slow down an A on the turn and get you a free river, and if you get popped you probably have a pretty easy fold rather than calling down later on. (EDIT: Missed the diamond draw, which does complicate things. I like the check more after seeing that, but I think I'm still usually betting. Again, if you don't think your opponents are tricky, check-call is a more expected line than check-raise for a flush draw)
The river seems like an easy check behind unless you're convinced that this guy will call with a T. Occasionally I'll bet, gambling on that possibility, but usually I'm checking. |
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
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The river seems like an easy check behind unless you're convinced that this guy will call with a T. Occasionally I'll bet, gambling on that possibility, but usually I'm checking. [/ QUOTE ] Right but sometimes he calls with a T and sometimes he doesn't. But he doesn't ever have a better hand here so why not bet? |
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Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.
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Right but sometimes he calls with a T and sometimes he doesn't. But he doesn't ever have a better hand here so why not bet? [/ QUOTE ] If you can bet and fold to a raise, fine. I think that a busted diamond draw or a T c/r'ing this river is less likely than a strangely played A or boat. And yes, I see people check those kinds of hands on the river hoping for a c/r more often than one might expect. It is probably the case that the likelihood that he has a T and pays you is higher than the likelihood that he has a big hand and c/r's you, but I think it's reasonably close and so I think the bet is pretty thin. I don't hate it, but most of the time I'm not doing it. |
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