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Check or bet, that is the question
UTG is 37/6/1.1 and 39/48 over 140h.
MP is 26/18/2.5 and 44/51 over 2900h. CO is 19/15/3.1 and 38/53 over 800h. Button is 49/23/1.3 and 48/46 over 100h. I put the CO top pair + straight draw, KJ or a flush draw. With that high AF + high WSD he's likely to have put in another raise on the flop or turn with 2 pair or better. Or? Buttons cold-call on the flop can be a lot of hands. So, what is the best course of action on the river? Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: (12.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls, Button calls. Turn: (12.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls. River: (15.00 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players) |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
I'd bet/call one/fold for two more. CO could have a Q or busted draw and BT a Q, T, a broken fold button.
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
For UTG, what does "39/48" refer to?
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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For UTG, what does "39/48" refer to? [/ QUOTE ] My guess is WtSD and W$SD As for the hand, yea I think you have to value bet it, and call a raise. |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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As for the hand, yea I think you have to value bet it, and call a raise. [/ QUOTE ] Does it matter which player it is that raises? If the CO raises he's very likely to have the flush since the 2 is a very innocent card apart for putting a 3-flush out there. And even though the button is loose, he's not overly aggressive, and he is up against a PFR plus someone who raised the flop. At the same time, a player with those stats can make some pretty funky things on occasions. I guess that plays a large part in us calling a raise if we bet? You're advocating bet-call. Say we bet, CO raise, button cold-calls, we call? Or we bet, CO calls, button raises, we call? |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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You're advocating bet-call. Say we bet, CO raise, button cold-calls, we call? Or we bet, CO calls, button raises, we call? [/ QUOTE ] I call both of those. Obviously we hate getting raised and we're probably no good, but we'll win the ~5% of the time we need to for calling to be right. |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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For UTG, what does "39/48" refer to? [/ QUOTE ] It's WSD and W$SD. Sorry about that. |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
Bet/fold, only thing that hit is a flush, they've been calling so a flush draw is very possible. No-ones gonna bluff raise this river, since it's 3-way and in a big pot.
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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Bet/fold, only thing that hit is a flush, they've been calling so a flush draw is very possible. No-ones gonna bluff raise this river, since it's 3-way and in a big pot. [/ QUOTE ] I've noticed you advocating folding on the river a bit in your posts. I see plenty of players try to bluff-raise the river when the pot is big. I did it the other day on a scary board with an unimproved AK and I won it. The table LAG bet out in first position, I raised him and two other players plus the LAG folded behind me. |
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Re: Check or bet, that is the question
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[ QUOTE ] Bet/fold, only thing that hit is a flush, they've been calling so a flush draw is very possible. No-ones gonna bluff raise this river, since it's 3-way and in a big pot. [/ QUOTE ] I've noticed you advocating folding on the river a bit in your posts. I see plenty of players try to bluff-raise the river when the pot is big. I did it the other day on a scary board with an unimproved AK and I won it. The table LAG bet out in first position, I raised him and two other players plus the LAG folded behind me. [/ QUOTE ] Well, that's the reason we can't fold if we bet. I hate checking here missing out on potential value bet. I also hate bet-calling though. But all those small things like mis-click by our opponent, stupid attempted move or whatever, adds up enough so that they provide the overlay we need to call a river raise without a more specific read on our opponents. |
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