The good old flop donk bet, turn c/r line...

JrJordan · #1 09-03-2005, 08:09 PM

Villain is a solid TAG. Neither ABC or overly tricky. In other words, he's probably better than me, but the rest is a bunch of weak-passive donks. Might be a 2+2er, so if you are let me know. The preflop raise is questionable, but it was 5 handed and the players to my left were folding regularly when I raised.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero...

I checked the turn with the intention of raising an ensuing turn donk bet. I mix this up with immediately raising the flop so not too much discussion on this part.

Is this the type of turn where I'd like to check through because I just want to get to showdown and can hopefully induce a river bluff? Plenty of draws that I don't really want to get free cards for though.

And of course, who calls down having made the turn bet?

bank · #2 09-03-2005, 08:15 PM

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Is this the type of turn where I'd like to check through because I just want to get to showdown and can hopefully induce a river bluff?

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Yes. This a better line against this type of player IMO.

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Plenty of draws that I don't really want to get free cards for though.

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True. But I hate putting 2BB in on the turn with a pot this small.

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And of course, who calls down having made the turn bet?

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I do.

Do you have his aggression factors on each street? This would help.

cartman · #3 09-04-2005, 07:19 AM

I would bet the turn, but I don't know for sure. I would definitely fold the turn. He knows you are likely to have plenty of that board and he doesn't appear at all concerned.

Cartman

stigmata · #4 09-04-2005, 08:08 AM

I would bet/fold the turn here.

I think a check-turn, call-river line might be OK too, especially if he will bluff the river.

ctv1116 · #5 09-04-2005, 10:59 AM

Anyone else read this guy's hand as holding AcXc? My head says I don't have 4.5:1 odds, but I'd call down anyway, just becuase I'm a sheriff.

helpmeout · #6 09-04-2005, 11:26 AM

Raise the flop.

Yeah fold the turn he has your measure here, pot is too small to find out.

goofball · #7 09-04-2005, 12:57 PM

Just raise the flop. Punish the donker.

Arriving where we are on the turn, I just check through, call a river bet, or bet and call a checkraise on the river.

goofball · #8 09-04-2005, 12:59 PM

Oh, I would fold to the turn checkraise. He probably thinks the A hit you and that youl'l bet it so he can c/r. He has a pair of aces beat.

Or he thinks you'll value bet lots of hands you can be pushed off of by a turn c/r on that A because he's representing a hand better than a pair of aces. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]