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12-24-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
Against players with TAG stats who take this WA/WB line, I raise the river with anything I'd consider calling with and some things I wouldn't. Good luck with that.
This river bet means 1 of 2 things: - I have a weak made hand and recognize that you may be even weaker, so I'm betting intending to fold to a raise - I have a weak made hand and recognize that you may be even weaker, so I'm betting intending to fold to a raise only to chicken out at the last minute and payoff a raise anyways So I raise the river to figure out which category you fall into, and proceed accordingly. I also value raise top pair etc aggressively against this line, since so many people are in camp 2. Personally, I see virtually no one donk bet-3-bet strong hands on the river, which is the play you need to make to keep me honest. Yeah, your opponent can't possibly raise AK, because he'll get called by better hands and fold bluffs. So you use this information to bet/fold middle pair. But that means he can now raise AK against you as a bluff, so I do. good luck. -Eric 
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12-24-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
U are confused etizzle, Elindauer's post is a gem and makes perfect sense.
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12-24-2005, 11:53 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
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U are confused etizzle, Elindauer's post is a gem and makes perfect sense. [/ QUOTE ] I dont see how the following sentence makes any sense. [ QUOTE ] Against players with TAG stats who take this WA/WB line [/ QUOTE ] who took a WA/WB line?
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#5
12-25-2005, 08:47 AM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
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who took a WA/WB line? [/ QUOTE ] Hi etizzle, What I'm trying to say is that from my point of view, it appears that the villain has a mediocre hand where he thinks he is WA/WB and is betting the river to get a call from AK and fold to raise. Maybe the villain has pocket 7s or something. I don't know when the river bet comes that he had plenty of outs, and it doesn't matter. The point is, his hand reads like an open book when he chooses the check-call check-call bet-a-blank river line, and I think I play my hand very well against this line. If I've figured out how to handle this, then I'm sure others have as well and that makes using this very exploitable line dangerous, especially a good thinking player. I'm not trying to say that his OESD is WA / WB. Sorry for the confusion. -Eric
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#6
12-26-2005, 03:17 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
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[ QUOTE ] who took a WA/WB line? [/ QUOTE ] Hi etizzle, What I'm trying to say is that from my point of view, it appears that the villain has a mediocre hand where he thinks he is WA/WB and is betting the river to get a call from AK and fold to raise. Maybe the villain has pocket 7s or something. I don't know when the river bet comes that he had plenty of outs, and it doesn't matter. The point is, his hand reads like an open book when he chooses the check-call check-call bet-a-blank river line, and I think I play my hand very well against this line. [/ QUOTE ] Did you miss that Hero check-raised the turn as well as bet the river, or are you just giving a general example?
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