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Old 12-30-2005, 02:30 PM
kevstreet kevstreet is offline
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Default $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1550)
UTG+1 (t500)
MP1 (t1435)
CO (t1440)
Hero (t705)
SB (t765)
BB (t1605)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t150, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

My guess is folding is the correct play...
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

You are short, but now that short... i wait for abetter spot when i am first in a pot, but that is just me.. Push is not the worst move here I would say about 65% fold 35% push
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

*original reply deleted for stupidity*

I'd fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

hmm, ok I have to learn something from this.

I would have thought this is a push considering hero has ~5BB. Is it a fold because UTG will often call and turn over something like 77s?
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

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hmm, ok I have to learn something from this.

I would have thought this is a push considering hero has ~5BB. Is it a fold because UTG will often call and turn over something like 77s?

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Pushing isn't that bad here. Folding is more like "playing it safe". But UTG will fold a large % of the time. If I had any read that UTG might fold, I would push.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

Yeah it's a bummer, but I think you fold here.

88 would probably look big enough to me that I'd push. Not sure if that's a leak though. I guess since you're a bigger favorite over hands like A8s/A7s, and the board shows two overpairs (turning your hand into high card 4..suhweet) to eights a lot less often.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:00 PM
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I would move allin for sure. You probbaly have the best hand and you have folding equity. Meanwhile you have just under 5x the BB, what more do you expect?
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:02 PM
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your guess is correct.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

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I would move allin for sure. You probbaly have the best hand and you have folding equity. Meanwhile you have just under 5x the BB, what more do you expect?

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Switch 44 to 22. Do you feel the same way?

The UTG limp is always interesting in these situations but hard to read without context. One of my most common notes to make on players is "Can limp and fold in the late game" so that I know when I can play back at these things. If he's planning on limping and calling, whatever his range is, I don't think 44 is that exciting a holding to be getting involved with.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

Check SNGPT
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