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Old 12-29-2005, 05:09 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default I value call my nuts?

Not sure why I turned into Bill Fillmaff on this hand. Oh wait, it's because Button was a LAG monkey and I expected him to raise the turn. Eh?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls...
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: I value call my nuts?

well at least pop him on the river then.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: I value call my nuts?

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well at least pop him on the river then.

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How do you know that I didn't pop him on the turn after Button raised? (No results for now... I'm not saying whether that happened or not).

I'm just wondering if the best play here is to raise immediately and face the LAG button and the other guy with 2 cold, or hope that one of them raises and maybe get a cap-fest going.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: I value call my nuts?

If you think there is a good chance the button raises calling is fine. Did you give any thought to a flop 3 bet when it came back around?
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: I value call my nuts?

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well at least pop him on the river then.

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How do you know that I didn't pop him on the turn after Button raised? (No results for now... I'm not saying whether that happened or not).

I'm just wondering if the best play here is to raise immediately and face the LAG button and the other guy with 2 cold, or hope that one of them raises and maybe get a cap-fest going.

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Knowing that the button is a LAG monkey I'd be inclined to hope he raises and then 3bet when it comes back to me. But I don't play against mentally retarded Party players that might cap this when I raise and the SB still calls. If players are really that bad [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I'd just raise here.

Edit: I'm reading through TOP and the portion on position and I realize that I wait to try this type of move too much. I like raising this on the flop better than the turn. If SB has a set we might have cap city all the way down.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:24 PM
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didn't notice it wasn't HU my mistake
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: I value call my nuts?

Overcalls are lovley. And the fact that you might be able to trap a large field for 3 bets is even more lovley.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:27 PM
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if first to act also i will sometimes c/c the turn and c/r the river if players after are at all loose.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:51 PM
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Why no flop re-raise?
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:56 PM
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You really should be 3-betting that flop when it comes back to you.
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