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Old 12-19-2005, 08:23 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

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Button won't call because two potential knockouts in blinds.

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If I am button here I am calling with a huge range. I have zero FE anyway so will need to win a showdown. Why not use bigstacks FE and try to triple up.

Still a very easy push for hero though.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

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If I am button here I am calling with a huge range. I have zero FE anyway so will need to win a showdown. Why not use bigstacks FE and try to triple up.

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This is actually quite wrong. As the button here you would have to be a 49% favourite over the BB's range to call.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

Yes. By huge, I don't mean any two. People advocated pushing any two here in heros position here, and if I was up against that sort of hero and I was button the range I can call with to be 49% is pretty huge.

It's not like I can wait for bigger EV+ later. It's quite likely that any play made by me from here on in will be EV-. If I knew the middle stacks were the kind of people who calls bigstack pushes with A7 here, this obviously changes things.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

Once the micro-stack on the button calls, can't one of the blinds call more freely (since when the button and blind both get busted, the blind still takes 3rd)?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:19 AM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

Yes they can. But often won't.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:09 AM
Pete H Pete H is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

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If I am button here I am calling with a huge range. I have zero FE anyway so will need to win a showdown. Why not use bigstacks FE and try to triple up.

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This is actually quite wrong. As the button here you would have to be a 49% favourite over the BB's range to call.

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Does that 49% mean that it'd be +$EV?

I think it's too late to hope for positive expectation if you fold this.

With the dead chips and UTG's FE I'm calling any two just hoping my cards are live.

Edit:

Don't have SNGPT at work, but now I'd be interested to see what kind of hand you should push UTG for better EV if you and the blinds fold this hand and the big stack calls your push with any two?
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