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NotReady · #1 05-31-2005, 02:36 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (t1234)
SB (t3700)
BB (t706)
Hero (t2360)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

No reads. Party $11. 8 hands till blind increase.
Hero?

TStokes · #2 05-31-2005, 02:38 PM

Push

johnnybeef · #3 05-31-2005, 02:40 PM

fold....cmon

Unarmed · #4 05-31-2005, 02:42 PM

Raise to 800.

kyro · #5 05-31-2005, 02:43 PM

stop

NotReady · #6 05-31-2005, 02:45 PM

Kinda figured. Had to try.

Unarmed · #7 05-31-2005, 02:48 PM

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I was serious. Actually, I just noticed its an $11. Forget it.

Raising to 800 is a lovely play at the higher levels.
I'd rather do it with KK/AA but if raptor is in the SB I'd do it with QQ as well. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Phill S · #8 05-31-2005, 02:59 PM

I flat limp.

Look at the stacks, even without reads your money will go in the middle 80% of the time, who cares who the guy doing it is?

And if you see a flop, assuming there is no overcard, you can assume your pair is good.

You dont push here because the other big stacks will move out of the way and so your only taking on the shorty. You want one of them to do something stupid, even if its completing in the SB and catching top pair on a J high board.

Phill

kyro · #9 05-31-2005, 03:05 PM

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I was serious. Actually, I just noticed its an $11. Forget it.

Raising to 800 is a lovely play at the higher levels.
I'd rather do it with KK/AA but if raptor is in the SB I'd do it with QQ as well. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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In that case, I don't like it with QQ. I can see it with KK or AA. But I have to push any flop anyways, and I'm going to be pissed if an A or K hits. I'd much rather limp.

Unarmed · #10 05-31-2005, 03:13 PM

You want SB to push here. I min-raise because it looks to an aggro SB like I'm saying I can handle BB, but I don't want to risk busting. This is the perfect time for an aggro SB to resteal.

SB wants a situation where he pushes and BB folds, leaving you with a tough decision. If you limp BB won't necessarily think you're committed, so he may call SB's push given the pot odds and the greater probability you will fold if he folds. If SB knows this it makes it less likely for him to push. Actually, raising to 1000 is probably better because it gives SB a nice side pot even if BB calls, making SB more likely to push regardless of what he thinks BB will do.