Big pot-poor play

silkyslim · #1 07-10-2005, 04:52 PM

No reads on river bettor, other players are fishes. I really think I should have raised the turn, when i had the double draw, and i hate the river overcall. advice on all streets plz.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP3 raises, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

benneh · #2 07-10-2005, 04:55 PM

pump that turn. hard. harder. harder. oh baby.

royal flush draw with TPMK? not enough for you to wet your pants?

kapw7 · #3 07-10-2005, 05:06 PM

Call me loose but I would like to raise pre-flop. I would 3-bet the flop as well as I can't see MP3 having AK/AQ and probably not AJ and more important you might convince UTG to fold. On the river the overcall feels bad but I'm not sure if it is a mistake and how big. We are confident we beat MP3 but UTG's bet means 2 pairs or better.

TheRapist99 · #4 07-10-2005, 05:16 PM

Maybe I've been playing too much 6-max, but I like a raise preflop here. That probably changes the way the rest of the hand plays out.

I'd 3-bet the flop and bet the turn, your hand is decent and you have a ton of ways to improve. I don't think a turn c/r is bad but I prefer the more straightforward line of a flop 3-bet and a turn bet (if he caps the flop then slow down.)

silkyslim · #5 07-10-2005, 05:17 PM

you are right about raising pf. i really messed this hand up. It would have played out differently. 3 betting the flop is a strong option to get UTG to fold. What about raising the turn to get UTG out + i have a huge draw.

silkyslim · #6 07-10-2005, 05:19 PM

This hand demonstrates a leak that I have in huge pots, which I just read about in SSH, not betting enough to protect. i'm glad i posted it.

kapw7 · #7 07-10-2005, 05:25 PM

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What about raising the turn to get UTG out + i have a huge draw.

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I think benneh unambiguously (good english?) covered this...

silkyslim · #8 07-10-2005, 05:27 PM

o yeah, i must have been distracted by his filthy language.