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Old 12-30-2005, 10:13 PM
Reef Reef is offline
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Default Re: AJo......Stage 1 of play along

I think wait until the turn to raise. The pot has 17 bets in it and if you 3 bet there'll be 19 - only forcing others to call 2. Gutshots can call.

Raising on the turn will only give people 6:1 or a little more dpeending on how many are in.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:31 AM
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Why is everybody assuming that SB will lead the turn?
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: AJo......Stage 1 of play along

SB will lead the turn if Hero calls. Now if Hero 3-bets here than we have a whole different situation.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:01 AM
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I would call then reraise if the turn is a blank card to test his hand. If I get reraised back again, I'll call it down but I would feel like I'm beat
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:12 PM
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To all the people who want to wait for the turn, what are you putting SB on?
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:46 PM
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Having only completed and being an unknown, I put him on a bad ace, QJ, or any two diamonds (including or not including the king). AQ is a possibly, but I don't give him credit for it by only completing.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: AJo......Stage 1 of play along

The SB will generally NOT lead the turn if hes on the flush draw and misses. If the SB bets out a diamond turn I think we're probably behind and should NOT raise. At this point he probably has the straight, set(still semi-unlikely IMHO) or the made flush.

I'm not worried about UTG+1 as he could have anything as you say, but I am also worried about MP2. If he's decent he needs some type of hand to be calling here, possibly KQs, a small flush draw, or maybe T9s for the openender. Is he the type to call a raise here pre-flop with a weak ace or suited connectors? or does he have reasonable pre-flop cold-calling standards?
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