Lots of 6th... Review this push please

[Nicok7]

Like the title says, am wondering if I am too aggressive when the field is still reasonnably large. Flame away!

***** Hand History for Game 2595731230 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15151124 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Thursday, August 25, 15:02:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 11741 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 10: Hero ( $1200 )
Seat 3: UTG+1( $1650 )
Seat 4: MP ( $1180 )
Seat 6: Button( $870 )
Seat 8: SB ( $1140 )
Seat 9: BB ( $1960 )


Trny:15151124 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to esklibur [ 8d 8c ]
esklibur is all-In [1200]
Zhage folds.
heyrhett folds.
jacksBnimble folds.
Major_Oak folds.
>You have options at Table 12231 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11182 Table!.
robkplaya calls [1050].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Qc, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
esklibur shows [ 8d, 8c ] two pairs, eights and sixes.
robkplaya shows [ Ac, Qh ] two pairs, queens and sixes.
robkplaya wins 2475 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sixes.
esklibur finished in sixth place.
esklibur has left the table.

[Unoriginalname]

Even though you're UTG, I think you have to push 88 there.

Note: FWIW, I just ran it through SNG PT, and it says it's a +EV push virtually regardless of whether everyone has loose or tight calling standards.

[raptor517]

this is a clear shove, and its not really even close. i get lots of 6ths too. happens. you were ahead, you had dead chips in the pot, what more do you want? holla

[TheNoodleMan]

isn't it pretty well accepted that good SNG players get a lot of 6th place finishes?

[ravensfan]

sweet, i've been getting 6th places all day long...
hell i get more 6ths than 1st, 2nd and 3rd combined!

j/k, I agree though: although i'm just starting at the 11s, i've found that when i try to hit ITM, i get a lot of 3rds and 4ths, but when i'm winning the most money, i'm getting 6th a lot. FWIW, i think it's b/c i'm trying to avoid getting blinded away and build a chip lead...

In this hand, i love the fact that the chips are evenly distributed, that should prevent a lot of KQ, KJ, K10s from calling... I'd assume the hands to worry about are: AK-A10, AA-99 (obviously)... not too many hands out there that would be justified in calling this bet.

[Jakob]

I my first month of serious SNG playing, I have also noticed that I get a lot 6 places. But as long as your play is correct, I wouldn't worry about it

[Bill Poker]

if the table is tight (only call with AQ+/TT+):
0.774*1425+0.226*(0.35*0.55+0.65*0.19)*2400=1274.3 484
so push is right

or if the table is semi tight (call with AT+/88+/KQ):
0.59*1425+0.41*(0.40*0.55+0.60*0.19)*2400=1170
close

if the table would call with A7+/44+/kq:
0.444*1425+0.556*(0.32*0.55+0.35*0.19+0.13*0.75+0. 19*0.81+0.01*0.5)*2400=1298
so a push

so somewhere between, a push is a bit -EV.

flame on!

[Nicok7]

Thanks everyone for replying. My feel at the table was between tight and semi tight (referring to the ranges you mention). Glad I made the right move.

[imported_cocarondelle]

probably the right time to try to be a little bit ahead of the short stacks, and anyway ICM says that any PP above 33 would show a nice +ev over there, so , close the eyes and shove....