AA and hard time on the flop

Raven · #1 03-12-2005, 06:08 PM

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($200)
Button ($208.7)
SB ($52.7)
BB ($245.55)
UTG ($145)
UTG+1 ($98.6)
MP1 ($480.06)
MP2 ($95)
MP3 ($216.4)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. (sweet)

Hero posts a late blind of $2.
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $6, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $7, BB calls $6, MP1 calls $6.

Flop: ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $15, MP1 raises to $75.4.

No read, its my first hand on the table.
Do I play my stack here or do I fold (and wait for the mmm better opportunity) ?
On a side note, if its get called to 15 $ to me do I raise or just call ?

MyMindIsGoing · #2 03-12-2005, 06:16 PM

Raise max preflop. I do not think you are ahead at this point though. MP1 shoud have a set here or the king of diamonds. If you think he has the king, push all in and hope he folds, otherwise fold. If MP1 did not raise I would raise myself, folding to a reraise.

BillUCF · #3 03-12-2005, 09:27 PM

With two opponents assume you need to catch a diamond to win the hand.

What are your pot odds?
You need to put in $75 to win a pot that has about $105 in it. Your pot odds are about 1.4 - 1.

You have 9 cards on the turn to make your flush and 38 that will not make the flush. On the river you have 9 cards to make the flush and 37 that don't make it. Approximately you have 18 chances to make the flush and 38 chances to miss the flush or 38-18 or 2.1 - 1 odds.

Since your pot odds are worse than your odds to make the flush you do not call here.

This is a clear fold.

Allinlife · #4 03-12-2005, 09:37 PM

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Raise max preflop. I do not think you are ahead at this point though. MP1 shoud have a set here or the king of diamonds. If you think he has the king, push all in and hope he folds, otherwise fold. If MP1 did not raise I would raise myself, folding to a reraise.

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Who raises with K high 1 card flush draw?

DyessMan89 · #5 03-12-2005, 09:54 PM

I lay this down, and its not close. Im sure you're looking at trips, two pair, a straight, or a flush. I dont think anyone would raise with a middle-big pair or the K of diamonds here.

Raven · #6 03-12-2005, 10:20 PM

Ok so in the hand I folded on the flop as the BB, MP1 kindly showed Qd4d for the flopped flush. Just wanted to know if it was right, I hate folding an overpair nut-flush draw.

Bob Moss · #7 03-12-2005, 11:51 PM

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With two opponents assume you need to catch a diamond to win the hand.

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I disagree. Either or both of these clowns could have an overpair or a pair and a draw.

Bob

BillUCF · #8 03-13-2005, 01:42 AM

Against one opponent you might call, but against two opponents you are a big underdog in the hand. With increasing number of opponents the possible hands you are up against increases geometrically.

gsyme · #9 03-13-2005, 05:12 AM

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With increasing number of opponents the possible hands you are up against increases geometrically.

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What? So with three opponents i'm up against N^3 hands? I knew those sneaks were up to something...

Sakuraba · #10 03-13-2005, 02:09 PM

"If you think he has the king, push all in and hope he folds, otherwise fold."

You mean "hope he calls", right? Why do you want him to fold if he has the king? (I am assuming you don't think he aready has the flush. I can't believe he would fold if he does.)