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Old 01-20-2005, 09:50 AM
Sluss Sluss is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

But you can see more of your outs. Giving you more information. So if you need a diamond and you only see two out there is a good shot of you getting one. I think...I'm really still a newbie at this advanced stuff. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:04 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

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I believe (and again, I can't remember for certain, but I'll reference it tonight), that your odds of drawing to a flush are increased with less people drawing from the deck, and therefore less people drawing to your outs.

Make sense?

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Not yet, no. It seems like the more people in the hand, the more info you have about the odds of drawing your suit from the stub. Is this any flush, or just a nut flush? I can see raising with the third or fourth-best flush to attempt to drive out higher, non-nut draws.

This reminds me of being cussed out by a friend of mine while playing blackjack on our first-ever trip to the local indian casino at the age of 18. He said since I was seated directly to the right of the dealer (3rd base he called it) I should stand on 11 with the dealer showing low, since taking a card might take away the dealer's bust card.

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Old 01-20-2005, 03:58 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

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This reminds me of being cussed out by a friend of mine while playing blackjack on our first-ever trip to the local indian casino at the age of 18. He said since I was seated directly to the right of the dealer (3rd base he called it) I should stand on 11 with the dealer showing low, since taking a card might take away the dealer's bust card.

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This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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Old 01-20-2005, 09:25 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

Your odds in stud do not change because of the number of people in the hand. They change because of the cards that have shown. If you're drawing to a flush and a lot of your cards have shown, the chance of making your hand goes down. If a lot of cards have shown, but your cards are still live, your chance goes up. It doesn't matter whether you're up against one player or six.

The reason you usually want people in when you have a draw is so that they'll pay you off if you make your hand.
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:10 AM
gsyme gsyme is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

That's superstition. Your odds won't change whether you're drawing the 1st card or the 50th card in the deck--it's still a random card. People aren't "stealing your outs" by staying in the hand.
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Old 01-22-2005, 12:21 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

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The reason you usually want people in when you have a draw is so that they'll pay you off if you make your hand.

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Before I add to this thread I must admit I am a Stud newbie, but just last night I was reading about this in Super System.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if you have mostly high cards, and you have a flush draw, it is often better to raise to slim the field (assuming a high pair might win the hand if the Hero pairs)? With a smaller field the Hero has a better chance of winning if the flush draw misses.

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Old 01-22-2005, 02:39 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Very basic stud questions (buy-in amounts, etc.)

Yes, with high cards, knocking people out gives you extra chances to win. Usually at lower limits, you'll get enough callers that you basically need to make the flush to win. You also make money by putting money in with a flush draw because you have a forty-something percent chance to make a hand that is very likely to hold up in a multi-way pot.
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