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Old 11-16-2005, 02:25 AM
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Table is very loose, and I have been hitting everything. I have had to show down most of my winners, and haven't been caught in a bluff yet.

Only read on villian is that he is 24/14/2.2, so at least we know his software came with a fold button. I rarely make this turn raise, but I thought I might get him to fold a better hand given my image. Also, if he has overs, I am protecting my hand.

Does anyone like the turn c/r?
Given that he calls the c/r, what do I do on the river?


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

River: (7.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:28 AM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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I would checkraise the flop against this player. You got OESD, backdoor flush draw, and your pair outs will often be good. You don't need too much folding equity to make a flop checkraise correct here. A 24/14/2.2 is exactly the type of player who can lay down on the turn with overs. It is also good that hands like JK don't have any straight draws to justify a turn call (unless they pick one up of course).
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:46 AM
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River bet seems marginal. I really doubt he's going to call with anything you beat on this board, and I doubt he folds anything that beats you. And yeah, I'd just go ahead and C/R the flop.
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:17 AM
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I would checkraise the flop against this player. You got OESD, backdoor flush draw, and your pair outs will often be good. You don't need too much folding equity to make a flop checkraise correct here.

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Old 11-16-2005, 03:29 AM
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I'm gonna sing with the chorus about CRing the flop. I'd also want to check/call the river. We might be able to induce a bluff out of him, and I really doubt that Ace high is calling that river
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:55 AM
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OK, since everyone is saying to c/r the flop, lets say I do and he just calls. I then would lead the 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn. He now raises. Fold?
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