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Old 10-05-2005, 07:02 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

What should I do to learn to muck them???

Just sat in. VIllain seems very loose and quite passive.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

You played this correctly, no worries. Would be closer on the turn if you didn't have the Ks but I prolly call down anyway.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

You played this fine, I think.

I know I couldn't fold on the river.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

You should never muck this hand. He could be raising with the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or top pair ( or both). And you have a flushdraw yourself.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

Don't fold this

Sometimes I bet the river but c/c's fine too.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

Seems fine to me, u have to call down with Overpair. If villian was more aggro I think a 3-bet on the turn would be good
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

[ QUOTE ]
What should I do to learn to muck them???

Just sat in. VIllain seems very loose and quite passive.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

[/ QUOTE ]

uhh... don't fold here

if you're considering a fold here, your name suits you
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

It could be theoritically correct to fold an unpaired, non-spade river if the opponent is really really transparant and passive. I call down every time though.
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:28 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

Thanks! I kind of knew I played it correctly... too result-oriented thinking I guess.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: don\'t know how to fold big pairs :(

Wouldn´t bet/fold be better suited for this kind of "quite passive" villain? If he is passive, I think the chances he raises the river with a worse hand is close to 0. Also, occasionally he may check the river, such as if he was semi-bluffing, or trying to "raise the turn for a free showdown." I see no harm, but occasional benefits, in bet/folding against this opponent.
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