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Old 07-05-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

No, there doesn't have to be. Why must there be? You have premises that you don't even recognize as premises.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

It happens only once, in it's entirety, but in that entirety(not neccessarily a word, or a properly spelled one anyway) it happens an infinite amount of times.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

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I'm not sure there was such a thing.

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But doesn't there have to be? This question really makes me think.

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Are you assuming that there can be "time" without "space"? More concretely, doesn't a "day" require an earth and a sun??
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

We don't know. Maybe nothing at all. And nothing causing the universe is not illogical.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

Everything in our everyday lives points to cause and effect. We are born and we die. Our compturers are made, wear out, and break down. Everything we observe uses cause and effect, but it is clear that not everything must follow this pattern. After all, this has to be one "First Cause", which doesn't really make sense to me so I think of it as something that "just always has been and always will be".

Here's something that might soothe your cognitive dissodance. No complete system is consistent. No consistent system is complete. Wrap your mind around that.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

I guess I use this question to support my theory that science can't solve everything which makes God and/or religion a possibility. I'm sure you guys who are smarter than me will punch a lot of wholes in my idea.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

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I'm not sure there was such a thing.

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But doesn't there have to be? This question really makes me think.

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Are you assuming that there can be "time" without "space"? More concretely, doesn't a "day" require an earth and a sun??

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maybe instead of "day" I should have used "moment"
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

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I guess I use this question to support my theory that science can't solve everything which makes God and/or religion a possibility. I'm sure you guys who are smarter than me will punch a lot of wholes in my idea.

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Meh, the problem with this argument is that you can ask the same question about God.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

You only think you are asking a question in the same way as if you had asked "How much does red weigh?"

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Old 07-05-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: What happened the day before the universe was created?

Science can solve everything for which there is an answer. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Your question has no meaningful answer, hence our disregard for it. Take your philosophical premise that every event has a reason or cause sufficient to explain it, and give it a long, hard look.
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