when are you officially all in?

mostsmooth · #1 10-23-2005, 04:52 PM

suppose you are playing say 100-200 limit
you happen to have 100 left on the flop and you bet it.
are you now all-in, or do you only become all-in when theres a new bet/raise you cant cover?
the only reason i ask is that if you become allin during a hand, if you want to buy more chips after the hand (assuming you lost), you have to buy at least the table minimum, if you werent all in, you could buy less than the minimum.(at least thats the rule anyplace ive played)

Randy_Refeld · #2 10-23-2005, 04:54 PM

When you put all the chips in front of you into the pot you are all in. Most rooms allow one short buy in limit games.

mostsmooth · #3 10-23-2005, 04:57 PM

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When you put all the chips in front of you into the pot you are all in. Most rooms allow one short buy in limit games.

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thanks
it doesnt make sense to me, but thanks
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Jimbo · #4 10-23-2005, 05:19 PM

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When you put all the chips in front of you into the pot you are all in. Most rooms allow one short buy in limit games.

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thanks
it doesnt make sense to me, but thanks
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What would make sense to you? Being all in before you put all your chips in the pot? Being all in while you are putting your last chips in the pot? Or being all in after you put all your chips in the pot? I'm really wondering what doesn't make sense to you.

mostsmooth · #5 10-23-2005, 09:29 PM

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When you put all the chips in front of you into the pot you are all in. Most rooms allow one short buy in limit games.

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thanks
it doesnt make sense to me, but thanks
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What would make sense to you? Being all in before you put all your chips in the pot? Being all in while you are putting your last chips in the pot? Or being all in after you put all your chips in the pot? I'm really wondering what doesn't make sense to you.

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it would make sense to me that you become all in when you are facing a bet and cant cover it

Jeffage · #6 10-23-2005, 09:42 PM

There are no short buy-ins in Atlantic City. Once you go all in, you must buy in for at least the table minimum. At Borgata, the buy-ins for 40-80 and 80-160 are higher than the norm (1000 and 2000 respectively). So if people go all in, they have to come up with the complete buy-in (which I think is a little excessive). I think there should be one short buy-in allowed...people are just paranoid about hit and run I guess.

Jeff

mostsmooth · #7 10-23-2005, 09:51 PM

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.people are just paranoid about hit and run I guess.

Jeff

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i heard they raised it just for that particular reason. i think they should raise it for the 20 game as well

Jeffage · #8 10-23-2005, 10:25 PM

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i think they should raise it for the 20 game as well

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Why? People who try to hit and run are usually bad and produce action. Often they will keep pulling out hundred after hundred if they get cracked too. So what if someone parlays $400 in $2000 and leaves. That's life (and also, I've found this to be exceedingly rare). I personally have no problem with the buy-in rules since I don't buy short. But I think if someone gets cracked for, say, $6000 in the yellow game and they only have $1000 left, they should CERTAINLY get a shot to put it in play. They will probably give it away anyway. And if they get lucky and build it up, that's poker (plus they will prob continue playing badly trying to get even which may tilt others and contribute to the game's overall action). If you make them leave if they can't produce $2000, they might not come back to donate more money.

I just don't get why people get upset about hit and run in a public cardroom.

Jeff

mostsmooth · #9 10-24-2005, 09:53 AM

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i think they should raise it for the 20 game as well

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Why?

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because i have a mental problem. other than that i agree with the rest of your reasoning.

mostsmooth · #10 10-24-2005, 09:57 AM

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i think they should raise it for the 20 game as well

[/ QUOTE ] But I think if someone gets cracked for, say, $6000 in the yellow game and they only have $1000 left, they should CERTAINLY get a shot to put it in play.

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this would be the scenario which i described earlier, if this -$6000 guy puts in his last bet on the river, nobody raises, he would be able to rebuy for his $1000 if he wasnt considered all-in and would be shut out if he was (in a game where the min was > 1000)