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Old 11-09-2005, 12:09 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default 5/10 River bluff

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($1557.60)
MP ($1041.01)
Hero ($1041)
SB ($744)
BB ($1150.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold</font>, MP calls $10, Hero calls $10, SB completes, BB raises to $25</font>, MP calls $15, Hero calls $15, SB calls $15.

Flop: ($100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB bets $120</font>, MP calls $120, Hero calls $120, SB folds.

Turn: ($460) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
BB bets $125</font>, MP calls $125, Hero calls $125.

River: ($835) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $771 (All-In)
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

I bomb flop hard.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

that must mean all in
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

move in on turn.
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

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move in on turn.

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i really hate this play, if you get called youre drawing dead a lot i think. I'd try to get it in on the flop.
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Marduk Marduk is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

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move in on turn.

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i really hate this play, if you get called youre drawing dead a lot i think. I'd try to get it in on the flop.

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What hands that have him dead on the turn won't call an all-in on the flop?
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:05 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

considering the way it was played, does anyone like/hate the river push?
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:07 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

what plays like this though? wouldnt a set/2-pair that filled up raise the flop? i can see them flat calling turn, but not flat calling flop

and theres no draws that "hit" on the river....

of course, i can see how they both could be on draws ... they look like theyre all on draws
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

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theres no draws that "hit" on the river....

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2 pair draw gets there (A10). I think the only question is can I get KK to fold here? Because that's about what BB has and other villian is likely on a draw.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:30 PM
Heimdal Heimdal is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 River bluff

I think the river push is bad.

All players know the "check river to induce bluff play". KK should only fold if he thinks you have Axc. But not many players value bet Ax there. And if they do, they dont push. I think you are called to often to make it profitable.

It is also very obvious that you have a draw. You called twice. I know you fastplay your made hands so a boat is not possible. Do your opponents know this?
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