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Old 05-05-2005, 01:17 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

This is a very well played hand. I think we can find a 3 bet on the river, though, if we are feeling up to it.
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Old 05-05-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

Does anyone see this as the 3-bet AJ scenario check/call check/call bet/call line? Just that now it's capped and we have AK. Do we really want to lose KK/QQ here by reraising or c/r'ing?
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

The more I think about what you did, the more I like the way you played it (except for missing the raise on the river).

Question - I normally hate playing Aces this passively, but I think your safe to do so with the board as it is. Granted there are no draws, but what type of draws would you play this the same way with?
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:39 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

Against a solid player I play this the same way. Range of hands after a cap: AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK,(Occasional AQ or TT). Against AA and JJ you want the least amount of bets in. Against KK,QQ,TT you do not want to show too much aggression. Versus a weak player I like check-raising the turn as I don't see a weak player laying down KK/QQ here. Against a solid player I play this the same way because a solid player will really make us pay with the hands that beat us and will fold to any aggression shown by us with a weaker hand (exception of the rare AQ). I don't see a reason to 3-bet the river. We are basically hoping that he has exactly AQ when we 3-bet this river.

PS: I would take this same line against a typical player as well.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

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I think we can find a 3 bet on the river, though, if we are feeling up to it.

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Absolutly not
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:01 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Ok you play AKo hoping to hit TPTK and hope it stands up... then you get THE PERFECT flop for AKo no str8 or flush draws and you just call a flop bet..... raise raise raise till you can't raise anymore. When the 3rd A hits the river the one hand you are worried about (AA) is no longer possible so raise it up!

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You also weren't expecting the player to cap you. "Raise raise raising" will only scare off hands you beat and spew chips against hands that crush you. 1-dimensional thinking like this will kill you.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:30 PM
grimel grimel is offline
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

I think you missed this part:

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Old 05-05-2005, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: AK ... chickened out?

I generally just call a raise PF with AKo, but there's 6 folds after UTG's raise so going ahead and 3 betting seems best. I don't think we can give Villain credit for AA yet.

Lead out the flop.

Why did you call the raise on the river? The only likely hand that has you beat is AJ. Did he have AK too?
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:45 PM
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I generally just call a raise PF with AKo, but there's 6 folds after UTG's raise so going ahead and 3 betting seems best.

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You have it backwards, the more cold-callers, the more likely you should 3-bet pre-flop.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:47 PM
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I generally just call a raise PF with AKo, but there's 6 folds after UTG's raise so going ahead and 3 betting seems best.

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You have it backwards, the more cold-callers, the more likely you should 3-bet pre-flop.

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Why? I'm interested to know this because I always assumed I'd want my top pair of have a better chance when I hit.
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