What to do, what to do

#1 12-13-2005, 01:18 AM

No real reads. Getting shifted like crazy in this $22 tourney. Do I want to put my "tournament life" (I don't like that saying) on the line here. Anybody raise preflop out of the BB? Hand converter issues again. What range of hands do you put villain on? JJ, QQ, KK, AA, A10, 33,22? He could have been getting cute with a big pair before the flop waiting for a re-raise...

***** Hand History for Game 3192217614 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 18231140) - Tue Dec 13 00:12:52 EST 2005
Table $40K Guaranteed(538603) Table 12 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Poker_Man (15626)
Seat 2: FGators26 (9533)
Seat 3: blitzburg42 (3920)
Seat 4: DLar0885 (1685)
Seat 5: TheGr8White (9825)
Seat 6: Briant312000 (12209)
Seat 7: chuckomoney (4588)
Seat 8: PokerDude_64 (3505)
Seat 9: DuckHuntr916 (2495)
Seat 10: SixHigh (810)
Poker_Man posts small blind (150)
FGators26 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FGators26 [ Ts, Ah ]
blitzburg42 folds.
DLar0885 folds.
TheGr8White calls (300)
Briant312000 folds.
chuckomoney calls (300)
PokerDude_64 folds.
DuckHuntr916 folds.
SixHigh folds.
Poker_Man calls (150)
FGators26 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Tc, 2d ]
Poker_Man bets (1300)
FGators26 raises (3000) to 3000
TheGr8White raises (9525) to 9525
TheGr8White is all-In.
chuckomoney folds.
Poker_Man folds.

adanthar · #2 12-13-2005, 01:23 AM

I just call the original bet, and then, umm, you shouldn't even come close to thinking about this.

#3 12-13-2005, 01:34 AM

Yeah, I quickly folded. Why not raise the SB there?

adanthar · #4 12-13-2005, 02:20 AM

Because he's an idiot and will give you more of his chips lots of times.

#5 12-13-2005, 02:30 AM

Point taken. I love to do this in heads up situations but with a few people behind me I didn't want donks with K high hitting 3 outers on the turn.

yvesaint · #6 12-13-2005, 02:42 AM

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Point taken. I love to do this in heads up situations but with a few people behind me I didn't want donks with K high hitting 3 outers on the turn.

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youre losing value worrying about 3-outers man

ansky451 · #7 12-13-2005, 10:48 AM

I see almost no reason to raise the flop. Call, reevaluate turn.

#8 12-13-2005, 11:27 AM

The only hands that make sense for The Gr8White to be holding is 22, 33, T2, T3. The little pairs would be most likely given his subsequent all-in. I wouldn't raise 33 with 7 guys behind me. Everybody just called, no strength there. He flops trips, high card is T, no pocket tens even hinted at pre-flop.No logical flush or straight draws seem likely. Your raise would have told me 2 pairs at the most. If he felt lucky he would have called, but the pot was plenty big enough as it was, and if one of you had called he would be the favorite to win.

#9 12-13-2005, 11:33 AM

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Point taken. I love to do this in heads up situations but with a few people behind me I didn't want donks with K high hitting 3 outers on the turn.

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Why would you assume Gr8White was a donk? Fine the SB was probably semi-bluffing high cards, but Gr8White's stack was larger than yours. He must have had some level of skill, we know you do. Was there some other read you had to assign him the "donk" title?

Matador225 · #10 12-13-2005, 11:37 AM

Why would villain have T3 or T2? No way he's limping that stuff from EP. I don't think you should discount the possibility of a high pocket pair either, most likely AA or KK.