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Old 06-11-2005, 02:03 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Any merit to this pf fold?

I'm out of position against a lot of unpredictable opponents. Should I just sack up and cap this?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">Hero folds, BB folds</font>, UTG calls.
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Old 06-11-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

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Should I just sack up and cap this?

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I would.
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Old 06-11-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

I am folding AK pre-flop at $5/$10 six max only if the hand of God reaches down and operates my trackball for me.

If both the raiser and reraiser are super-rocks, I might not need God's help but I don't think I've seen a super-rock at $5/$10 six max, yet.

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Old 06-11-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

I don't play 5/10, but I know at 2/4 if it were 4 bets to me and all the opponents were unknowns, I'd call.

A read of a stone-cold rock on either the 3-bettor or 4-bettor and I... still probably call.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:12 PM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

This is simply a terrible fold and it is not even close to being close.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:34 PM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

On a typical 5/10 6max table &amp; OOP, I just call the 3-bet. But there is no way in hell that I'm folding this preflop...even if both players are rockier than Bobby &amp; Whitney's marriage, you have to see this flop. If you whiff the flop &amp; they're still trying to outraise each other, then you can think about a fold.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

There certainly are circumstances I could conceive of folding AKo preflop. Anyone who says that you should never fold it would be wrong. But you have a strong hand (in a 6-max game no less), and it's not even capped to you. It's not like you have to go to showdown with A high if you miss. Pull up your skirt and play some poker.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

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There certainly are circumstances I could conceive of folding AKo preflop. Anyone who says that you should never fold it would be wrong. But you have a strong hand (in a 6-max game no less), and it's not even capped to you. It's not like you have to go to showdown with A high if you miss. Pull up your skirt and play some poker.

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I'd never, ever fold AK preflop unless I knew both of these guys only raised AA and KK. AK is a super premium hand!
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:21 PM
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I'd never, ever fold AK preflop unless I knew both of these guys only raised AA and KK. AK is a super premium hand!

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That's basically what I meant. Doesn't happen often, but every now and then you find the live low limit rock who will only raise (or 3-bet) AA/KK. You could think about folding then. And only then.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Any merit to this pf fold?

i'd call 3 cold oop, cap it if I had position or if it was suited. even a super rock would probably be raising and 3-betting with AKs QQ or maybe even JJ.
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