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Old 09-29-2005, 01:05 PM
grayhawk grayhawk is offline
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Default QQ with AA flop

No reads - 1st orbit at the table.

Poker Rewards, .5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, CO calls, <font color="red">Button raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls, <font color="red">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls

Flop: (12.5 SB) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="red">Button raises</font>, Hero?

OK, so I am probably behind. Should I have checked that flop and folded to a bet, or was the bet out correct? Do you fold to the raise, call, or 3-bet?
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:14 PM
jpb324 jpb324 is offline
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

I would fold to the raise on the flop. I don't think there is much that he would cap with PF and raise on this flop that doesn't have you beat. Exception would be if you knew villan was a maniac and would bet medium pairs this way.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

I think betting out was definitely correct here. Button's probably got the A but the pot is pretty big so you've got to be pretty sure you're beat to fold. While some players may cap with a bunch of stuff I think that AA, AK, AQ or KK are very likely hands here. I probably call here but I don't like it much.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

I would call down against an unknown. The pot is huge, and you only have to win like 1/5 times. He likely has AK or KK, but he could easily have JJ or TT.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

Same here. I call down and fully expect to lose. Every once in a while I will get pleasantly surprised, or I will muster all of my poker skillz to spike a Q.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

check call check call check call check call check call
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:31 PM
Jefzter Jefzter is offline
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

IMO betting out on the flop was the correct thing to do. It gives you information. It shows me the Button really likes his hand and it shows me the CO is a calling station. Since your new to the table it could also mean that CO knows that the button is a maniac and will bet out at anything and so he is in for the ride with a decent hand.

Against decent players (which I always assume when I first arrive to a table, until proven otherwise) I would assume that I’m behind to A’s, 9’s or K’s. But since the pot is already big I would check/call to the end.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

BAH! don't bring up spiking a Q on that board... The nightmare! I had that same flop with QQ in my hand and spiked the Q on the turn. Only to have my opponent be holding AA. So I am the donk betting into quad A's with my measly full-house.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:48 PM
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Like your play so far.

Would just call down from here.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:51 PM
grayhawk grayhawk is offline
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Default Re: QQ with AA flop

SCfuji, I find myself distacted when reading your posts. Is that Jessica Alba?

Good info folks - Hero called the flop raise. Let's continue:

Flop: (12 SB) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="red">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: (9 BB) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks

River: (9 BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero?

Getting checked through on the turn was a little surprising. Was button concerned with being check/raised? With that in mind, what does hero do on the river?
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