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Old 09-14-2004, 12:25 PM
jakuda jakuda is offline
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Default $1/$2 O8B nolimit hand.

Here is an O8B $1/$2 nolimit hand that my friend played. My friend "Chandler" is UTG+2. I disagree with his play.

9-player game. Average'ish players...but probably weakish considering the play that follows.
UTG folds.
UTG+1 calls. $2
Chandler calls $2. He has 4d Qc Qh Ah and ~$120 left
"Doug" raises to $4 (He has $180)
"Elmer" raises to $6. (He has $150)
Everyone folds back to the UTG+1 who then calls.
My friend Chandler here goes all in. Here is his reasoning. He "knows" that his opponents have A23x because of their min raises. He wants to go all in and basically end up headsup, or they both fold.

What do you think? I think a raise to $30-35 to go would have accomplished the same vs an all in bet. Even if they're calling stations, a raise to $40-45 would then be sufficient I think. He's risking his stack to win 50-65% of the final pot.

So "Doug" raises all in. "Elmer" calls. UTG+1 folds.

The board looks like: [4s 8c Kc ][6c] [5c]

Hands are revealed to be:
"Doug" has 3h 2h 4c Ad
"Elmer" has As 5s 3d 2s.

Even if you knew their exact cards, how would you have played it?

thanks!
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Old 09-15-2004, 05:49 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: $1/$2 O8B nolimit hand.

(Insert NLO8 hand history)

Wow, I find no limit omaha 8 so confusing. Anyone agree?
I think you're in the wrong place, bud - try the Omaha thread. I play quite alot of Omaha 8, but mostly limit, but I'll *try* to take a stab at it...

According to twodimes... (haha, the easiest way for me to stab at it!)

658008 samples required, using 500,000 sample simulation.
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=512288
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 4d qc qh ah - 3h 2h 4c ad - as 5s 3d 2s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Qc 4d Ah Qh 224271 338127 153551 8322 0 143802 17182 0.576
4c Ad 3h 2h 5564 36178 421542 42280 14602 3724 218852 0.186
As 5s 2s 3d 33273 83415 382162 34423 5972 27506 202307 0.238


Interesting he was drawing dead for low. Root for high cards baby.

And yes, knowing your opponents hands here, and the fact they would call, makes your friend brilliant. This was huge +Ev.
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Old 09-15-2004, 11:02 PM
AncientPC AncientPC is offline
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Default Re: $1/$2 O8B nolimit hand.

Might wanna try the PL Omaha forum:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...;Board=PLOmaha

Small stakes PL / NL is a sub-forum of hold 'em.
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