77 15-30 online

mike l. · #1 08-25-2005, 02:29 PM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 raises, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets.

Final Pot: 9 BB

ihardlyknowher · #2 08-25-2005, 02:44 PM

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 raises, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets.

Final Pot: 9 BB

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I would think most Party 15/30 players would call your river bet with Ace-high, which I would estimate he has 70% of the time here. If villain likes showdowns, he is probably calling you with K-high, which seems to be his only other possible holding (i.e. KQ). He could have TT as well, but he is calling you with that regardless.

Bottom line: if he will fold KQ, the river bet makes sense; if not, check/fold.

Paluka · #3 08-25-2005, 02:57 PM

I hate your flop bet. Too many opponents on a board that is awful for you. People will have draws, and if an 8 comes you are really screwed. I would let the pfr bet it and see what happens.

mike l. · #4 08-25-2005, 03:56 PM

"I would let the pfr bet it and see what happens."

i considered that but decided it was scared bad poker. i would bet a J here a lot of the time and a draw. i decided to find out for one bet what preflop raiser and other players had. when the answer came back favorably i value bet the turn. if anyone had flat called that flop id be looking for the fold button. it was a bet both for value and more for information which was worth it in a 5 way pot for a raise.

obi---one · #5 08-25-2005, 04:15 PM

stupid river bet. but i like your play until that point.

nickg1532 · #6 08-25-2005, 04:21 PM

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stupid river bet.

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well, it's the only way he can win this pot

PokerCad · #7 08-25-2005, 04:24 PM

I disagree, I think the only caller is one that beats me, I check and hope for the best

ihardlyknowher · #8 08-25-2005, 04:29 PM

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I disagree, I think the only caller is one that beats me, I check and hope for the best

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That villain raised PF with 6-high. That is a lot of hoping.

nickg1532 · #9 08-25-2005, 04:29 PM

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I disagree, I think the only caller is one that beats me, I check and hope for the best

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The point is we're are behind here 99% of the time (and chopping the other 1%). You're hoping that he has KQ and folds, or maybe sometimes he'll even fold Ace high here (although FWIW i think a lot of players are calling with A-high). My point is our only way to win is if villain folds. he can't fold if you don't bet (well, technically he can,i have seen it before [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

baronzeus · #10 08-25-2005, 04:34 PM

mike,

You played this hand perfectly. Not betting the river would be a horrible mistake as that means you are giving away the pot.

He likely has a hand like KQ or KTs or possibly AT based on the turn action so the river is a must-bet to fold out the first two.