2 key hands

housenuts · #1 09-29-2004, 07:41 PM

here's 2 key hands from last night $5+.50 at Stars. 1729 entrants, down to 3 tables.
I was 3rd at one point then got all-in PF with KK. The other guy showed KK as well and got a flush which decimated my stack. The following 2 hands came up shortly after this horrible beat.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (9 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button (t50254)
SB (t110374)
BB (t79193)
UTG (t93348)
Hero (t57295)
MP1 (t96238)
MP2 (t73759)
MP3 (t294041)
CO (t143718)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises to t14000, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t14000, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t30400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t30000, Hero raises to t42995, MP3 calls t12995.

Turn: (t116390) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t116390) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t116390

and another hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t106174)
MP2 (t172786)
CO (t71748)
Hero (t90390)
SB (t77638)
BB (t78559)
UTG (t232553)
UTG+1 (t168372)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to t71448, Hero raises to t90090, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t163338) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t163338) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t163338) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t163338

comments? i will post results a little later.

SossMan · #2 09-29-2004, 07:50 PM

Hand 1, i fold preflop unless the table is very tight, in which case, I would push.

Hand 2 is an easy push facing a CO open raise.

housenuts · #3 09-29-2004, 08:03 PM

k, let me clarify something about hand 1. A5s is not a hand I would usually raise with. The table was very tight, and I was just hoping to steal the blinds. The guy who called was the loosest guy at the table and seemed to be playing 50% of the hands.

My question about that one is more about PF play. Did I have to make that call, or could I have laid it down in that situation?

adanthar · #4 09-29-2004, 08:05 PM

Hand 1: Fold preflop, but since you didn't, you have to push on this flop. There are about eighty billion hands that will fold to a push that are ahead of you but will set you all in if you let them.

Hand 2: Yeah, you have to go all in here. Too bad you probably lost to Ax. Oh well, next hand.

housenuts · #5 09-30-2004, 04:45 AM

was hand 2 really an easy all-in/call? does anyone lay this down here?

Rizen · #6 09-30-2004, 03:17 PM

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k, let me clarify something about hand 1. A5s is not a hand I would usually raise with. The table was very tight, and I was just hoping to steal the blinds. The guy who called was the loosest guy at the table and seemed to be playing 50% of the hands.

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These two statements seem to contradict each other a little bit? The rest of the table may be very tight, but if 50% of the time you play a hand you're seeing a flop, your steal attempts won't be very successful...

It looks like it worked out for you this time, but if someone that loose is at your table you have to plan on having to play any hand you put your money in with post-flop.

-Rizen

fnurt · #7 09-30-2004, 03:23 PM

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was hand 2 really an easy all-in/call? does anyone lay this down here?

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hand 2 is very easy. JJ is a monster favorite against the range of hands the CO position would open-raise with.

Cleveland Guy · #8 09-30-2004, 04:01 PM

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The following 2 hands came up shortly after this horrible beat.

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This is even more of a reason not to play the 1st one. A5s in early position is marignal at best of a hand. Since people might put you on tilt, rightly or wrongly you are going to get more calls than you would otherwise.

If I lose a big pot, I want to make sure my next hand is really solid so I can keep my good image.